I’ve wondered about this for years, but we only have a handful of reports for PH vs. dozens for the other attacks.

I’ve wondered about this for years, but we only have a handful of reports for PH vs. dozens for the other attacks.

So, you think that there may be more SFPD files that have yet to be released? Since the case is active again in SF, I’d assume those files aren’t available through FOIA.

I was going to say it might be the cops, but they hadn’t come forward by that point, I assume.

I would think there’s plenty of SFPD material to be released, if it still exists. I’ve never seen any reports from Toschi or Armstrong, for example.

If you look here, there are 60 pages of reports for LHR and for PH, there’s literally only the 2-page Pelissetti report:
https://zodiackiller.com/ZodiacPoliceReports.html

…and most of us have seen Fouke’s scratch…don’t remember how it was obtained. We do have tons of SFPD’s correspondence with the FBI, but that’s thanks to the FBI.

I would imagine the cops at some point would have gone door to door and interviewed people who lived in the area, to see if they had seen or heard anything the night of the murder. They also may have been contacted by people who had info.

I think there is an odd file and report here and there which proves these things happened to some extent.

Probably most of these files which contain such info though have just never been released. Perhaps even lost by this point.

SFPD was singled out by Ed Rust for their lack of cooperation during the original investigation. I suspect that the pile of reports Voigt obtained 20 years ago (with the massive SFPD-shaped hole) reflects that.

A few things we haven’t seen or might/might not exist:
– Toschi’s report from that night.
– Anything to do with Pelissetti’s claims about the alleged "clearing" of Mr. X.
– Anything to do with those rumored cabbies who saw Zodiac get into Stine’s cab.
– Would Toschi not have written a report if Fouke said he stopped Zodiac? It clashes with Fouke’s scratch, but Toschi did say it happened…
– …and there has to be more material about the Robbins kids.

We will never see those files unless this case is re-classified as inactive. As long as Zodiac is an active homicide investigation, it is protected against public records requests.

Because of the mistakes of the dispatcher, Foulke, and Pelissetti that night, SFPD has a strong motivation to keep those files secret. Damn shame.

The exact verbiage from the article reads:

They (3 youngsters) said they saw a man… dash up Cherry Street in the direction of the Presidio.
Later reports indicated someone was seen running into Julius Kahn playground in the Presidio… and police dog units were pressed into the search.

Being that the 3 youngsters were definitely at the crime scene with the Police (officer Pelesetti initially) while the offender was still fleeing on foot, the later reports must have come from person(s) elsewhere in that area at the right time. Fouke places the offender last seen on foot near Jackson and Maple right by the Presidio, so reports could well have come from residents in that area.
Police likely questioned whomever they saw on the streets (like Officer Fouke did maybe?) for information. Moving fast on a crime scene the names of these reportants cold be lost entirely.

Not sure how thorough or accurate that would be. You would have had a night-desk reporter picking up the crime on a police scanner and making a couple phone calls. Under very tight deadline pressure.

One thing that bother me is that Foulke stated in the scratch memo that he witnessed Zodiac walking along Jackson st and turning North onto Maple. But he later states the he saw Zodiac walking up steps at 3712 Jackson st. So one of these two must be incorrect. Also if Pellissetti’s comments are remotely accurate he would have seen either Foulkes or Zodiac along Jackson, in all honesty he should have seen both ?/

One thing that bother me is that Fouke… later states the he saw Zodiac walking up steps at 3712 Jackson st….

Fouke just blurted that ‘going up the steps at Jackson’ detail out of nowhere in his 2008 interview, didn’t he? That detail had never been presented by Fouke or anyone before, I do not think. One wonders why – especially when the hunt for the offender was still red-hot.
Makes one wonder what Fouke actually did see that night.

We know for a fact that there was at least one other witness besides the 3 Robbins kids, So, quite possibly there may have been others.

We know for a fact that there was at least one other witness besides the 3 Robbins kids, So, quite possibly there may have been others.

Is that witness the source that reported seeing the suspect "fleeing into the playground" area? The newspaper article about the murder printed that tidbit but never said where the info came from.
Is the witness’ identity still concealed?

We know for a fact that there was at least one other witness besides the 3 Robbins kids, So, quite possibly there may have been others.

Is that witness the source that reported seeing the suspect "fleeing into the playground" area? The newspaper article about the murder printed that tidbit but never said where the info came from.
Is the witness’ identity still concealed?

I’m not sure it’s the same witness. The witness that I’m talking about is the 8 year old that identified Xenophon Anthony.