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Patinky
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Respectfully snipped for brevity>

I do wonder if Cheri would have been able to put up the fierce fight she did against a Guy the size of Ross.

I’m trying not to confuse the Bates murder with the Bates case letters, because it’s entirely possible, that Zodiac authored the letters & desktop, but did not kill Cheri. The police certainly feel Z did not kill Cheri, and tried to separate her case from the letters & desk.

I’m trying to focus on Ross was Zodiac, and as the Bates case letter/desk writer.

If Ross killed Cheri Jo, would that mean the 7-7.5 inch Timex watch was an unrelated artifact to the murder? Or else if Ross killed her he had a much smaller sized accomplice who lost the watch?

Also, the initials "r" and "h" used as a signature in the desk top poem wouldn’t fit Ross Sullivan (assuming r and h are signatory initials).

Wrist would fit.
Also you are not required to use your real initials when you vandalize something.

Height and average wrist size

5’8" Tall
7 inches
5’10" Tall
7.1 inches
6′ Tall
7.27 inches
6’2" Tall
7.45 inches
6’4" Tall
7.62 inches

The above, I assume, is based on someone in the average weight range and medium bone structure and not "hefty" as Ross was said to be. Also, a watchband needs to be quite a bit larger than the wrist measurement, at least an inch or more in order for it to wrap and buckle.

When in doubt, don’t.

 
Posted : March 29, 2015 3:10 am
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Patinky I love your rational comments, I wish you had more time to post. Very true about the watch! Ross was not average sized.

Thank you Seagull. I miss posting like I used to.

When in doubt, don’t.

 
Posted : March 29, 2015 3:12 am
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We don’t even know that the watch belonged to the killer. The watch is just one piece of the puzzle, it doesn’t prove or disprove anything.

 
Posted : March 29, 2015 3:36 pm
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We don’t even know that the watch belonged to the killer. The watch is just one piece of the puzzle, it doesn’t prove or disprove anything.

Yep, I agree. It is neutral information but I’d say "con" since we only had two choices (pro or con). It did have blood on it but I don’t know if it was Cheri Jo’s blood.

I can’t remember if the watchband was believed to have been torn from the wrist or not but based on what I’ve read, iirc, the Timex watch was believed to be a part of the crime scene. I suppose it could have been Cheri Jo’s watch (based on the size that an average woman’s wrist measures 6-6.5 inches).

When in doubt, don’t.

 
Posted : March 29, 2015 6:18 pm
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We don’t even know that the watch belonged to the killer. The watch is just one piece of the puzzle, it doesn’t prove or disprove anything.

Yep, I agree. It is neutral information but I’d say "con" since we only had two choices (pro or con). It did have blood on it but I don’t know if it was Cheri Jo’s blood.

I can’t remember if the watchband was believed to have been torn from the wrist or not but based on what I’ve read, iirc, the Timex watch was believed to be a part of the crime scene. I suppose it could have been Cheri Jo’s (based on the size that an average woman’s wrist measures 6-6.5 inches).

Sure it was blood, or did you mean paint??

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Posted : March 29, 2015 6:20 pm
Patinky
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We don’t even know that the watch belonged to the killer. The watch is just one piece of the puzzle, it doesn’t prove or disprove anything.

Yep, I agree. It is neutral information but I’d say "con" since we only had two choices (pro or con). It did have blood on it but I don’t know if it was Cheri Jo’s blood.

I can’t remember if the watchband was believed to have been torn from the wrist or not but based on what I’ve read, iirc, the Timex watch was believed to be a part of the crime scene. I suppose it could have been Cheri Jo’s (based on the size that an average woman’s wrist measures 6-6.5 inches).

Sure it was blood, or did you mean paint??

I don’t remember Morf. It could have been paint. Was it paint? :mrgreen:

When in doubt, don’t.

 
Posted : March 29, 2015 6:21 pm
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There was paint splattered on it for sure, but perhaps Blood too.

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : March 29, 2015 6:48 pm
Patinky
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Here’s two references for the watch:

http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/2546#.VRgWEOFx02g

http://www.zodiacciphers.com/the-confession.html

I’ve interpreted the data shown in the above links to indicate the wearer had a seven inch wrist. If related to Cheri Jo’s murder, I doubt Ross Sullivan had a seven inch wrist.

Wonder what Sullivan’s shoe size was?

When in doubt, don’t.

 
Posted : March 29, 2015 7:17 pm
Paul_Averly
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For what it is worth. This is Ross’s niece.

http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/In … 9.php#next

While one may have terrorized SF, the next generation swam around it.

 
Posted : March 30, 2015 7:49 am
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Ah, the possible irony of his niece being known for plunging herself into the billowy waves…

 
Posted : March 30, 2015 7:10 pm
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Ah, the possible irony of his niece being known for plunging herself into the billowy waves…

It is this wonderful humor that makes this forum need a "like" button.. actually two "like" buttons ..one for the wit that exudes and one for the rational intelligent comments that may one day bring the case together.

 
Posted : March 31, 2015 5:13 am
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Morf, I read the synopsis and it looks really good so far. I like the background facts that you included, and the timeline.

Smokie

 
Posted : April 2, 2015 4:27 am
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Morf, I read the synopsis and it looks really good so far. I like the background facts that you included, and the timeline.

Smokie

Thanks

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : April 2, 2015 4:38 am
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I wonder if any of Ross’s known addresses, the houses that he lived in, had a basement. What addresses do we have so far?

Smokie

 
Posted : April 3, 2015 2:58 am
morf13
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I wonder if any of Ross’s known addresses, the houses that he lived in, had a basement. What addresses do we have so far?

Smokie

We have ZERO

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : April 3, 2015 3:09 am
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