There are already people calling Ross a psychopath and a serial killer, in spite of zero proof that he killed anyone. So yeah, just having your name associated with Ross could be very, very bad in terms of keeping your job, friends and/or sanity.

I’m sure folks would talk to LE, but those conversations are confidential…and LE are supposed to be neutral, which amateurs tend not to be.

There are already people calling Ross a psychopath and a serial killer, in spite of zero proof that he killed anyone. So yeah, just having your name associated with Ross could be very, very bad in terms of keeping your job, friends and/or sanity…

I hear what you are saying CT and if this were current news and he was actually a suspect of LE plastered on the evening news, then yes. This as it stands today? I think these folks will be just fine.

Everybody’s different, but if I was one of Ross’s Relatives, I would join this very forum, and prove everybody wrong,and provide details,writing,etc, that would prove my Family Member was innocent.
His Own Brother Tim thought he was Z,and when asked about that, his Family simply said "Tim was sick too". That’s a real brush off. Ross has not been convicted of anything, and is innocent until proven guilty, but if he was my Family Member, and truly innocent, I would be clearing his name,even if he has been dead for 40 years

Everybody’s different, but if I was one of Ross’s Relatives, I would join this very forum, and prove everybody wrong,and provide details,writing,etc, that would prove my Family Member was innocent.
His Own Brother Tim thought he was Z,and when asked about that, his Family simply said "Tim was sick too". That’s a real brush off. Ross has not been convicted of anything, and is innocent until proven guilty, but if he was my Family Member, and truly innocent, I would be clearing his name,even if he has been dead for 40 years

Do you think that when the family member said that "Tim was sick too" that they meant Tim, like Ross, had a mental illness?

Let’s not forget that the one brother who lived in SF during the Zodiac crimes and had a close connection to CJB was sure Ross was Z. The other brother, who is blowing this all off, was in college someplace else not in the bay area.

It makes sense that he (Jon) doesn’t want to defend Ross to a bunch of people on the internet. He must have moved on quite a bit since Ross’ death with his own family. The thing I keep thinking of is Jon’s kids. It would be a great burden to his kids, if he passes and they don’t have anyway to learn the truth. They will always have to wonder if Ross was Z with no way of knowing…

My offer still stands, to Ross’s Brother, and Family, if you are reading this, I will pay for DNA testing to see if your DNA line matches the DNA evidence in the Zodiac case. Let’s clear Ross’s name once and for all

Do you think that when the family member said that "Tim was sick too" that they meant Tim, like Ross, had a mental illness?

If Tim had been diagnosed with a mental illness, there would’ve been no need for him to scoot up to Canada to avoid the Vietnam draft.

Do you think that when the family member said that "Tim was sick too" that they meant Tim, like Ross, had a mental illness?

If Tim had been diagnosed with a mental illness, there would’ve been no need for him to scoot up to Canada to avoid the Vietnam draft.

That depends upon IF and when he was diagnosed. He may have been so paranoid that he moved to Canada regardless of whether or not he could have passed the physical.

Would Riverside PD even look at DNA unless it came from a friend of Bob B.’s?

And of course, SFPD ignored Gaikowski’s. Some say it’s because Gaik is a lousy suspect, but SFPD didn’t take Mr. X seriously, either. In the meantime, no suspects publicly cleared on DNA since 2003…not pinning my hopes on them.

Edit: Lafferty says in his book that Maloney told him the "partial profile" was useless, which would explain everything.

Would Riverside PD even look at DNA unless it came from a friend of Bob B.’s?

And of course, SFPD ignored Gaikowski’s. Some say it’s because Gaik is a lousy suspect, but SFPD didn’t take Mr. X seriously, either. In the meantime, no suspects publicly cleared on DNA since 2003…not pinning my hopes on them.

Edit: Lafferty says in his book that Maloney told him the "partial profile" was useless, which would explain everything.

Sounds like Riverside would look at DNA from a local suspect. They are very firm that the CJB’s killer was a local person.

SF DNA can only exclude suspects.

Would Riverside PD even look at DNA unless it came from a friend of Bob B.’s?

And of course, SFPD ignored Gaikowski’s. Some say it’s because Gaik is a lousy suspect, but SFPD didn’t take Mr. X seriously, either. In the meantime, no suspects publicly cleared on DNA since 2003…not pinning my hopes on them.

Edit: Lafferty says in his book that Maloney told him the "partial profile" was useless, which would explain everything.

Sounds like Riverside would look at DNA from a local suspect. They are very firm that the CJB’s killer was a local person.

SF DNA can only exclude suspects.

Don’t forget, there is a real possibility that the DNA from the Bates crime has already been compared to the Zodiac case DNA and did not match, which is why RPD may have done a 180 and said that they are sure Z didn’t kill Cheri

Anybody have any luck reaching Bonnie?

Here is a look inside Tim’s old apartment. (only $4500 a month!)
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/25-Ba … 7351_zpid/

It also has a basement.
http://www.checkpermits.com/property/25 … ancisco+CA

2007 – Renovation of ground floor and basement floor. Floor & partition walls to finishing. Convert unoccupied basement to habitable rooms.

I have always found Tim interesting, mostly because we know so little about him, and he was one of the main accusers of his brother Ross (along with the librarians).

I know I am beating a dead horse with this question, but when did he die? And where would be helpful. And how do we know? I am guessing it may be hearsay, but I hope to figure it out. It is such a tragic family, from cancer deaths, to heart issues, it appears John was the only one to escape deaths fate at a young age.

Also, are there any pictures of Tim? From any age? And was he a swimmer like Ross? That might help spur someone’s memory.

I am trying to locate people in Binghamton who may have known the family (unfortunately, Sullivan was a common name, and Tim and John also popular with it). Ross tends to be a bit too old for anyone I have come across. I met someone at a Christmas party this past week who went to Binghamton Central in the 60s, and didn’t even think to ask about Tim as I was first told he graduated in the 50’s so I was curious about Ross.

Of interesest, part of the swim team "hazing" I would guess, was being forced to swim nude. I am a little blurry on why, as was he, but will get back in touch with the person I spoke with for more info. And I hope to find people who knew the family, but its not easy, everyone I seem to meet, and family, was about 10+ years younger. It all may lead nowhere, but the more we know about the Sullivans, I hope the more we can figure out.

(And I don’t know of any extra history from the Y, infact the first day I visited the history center at the library in Binghamton, a woman who worked at the Y was there researching it because so much was missing in their archives. There was no more in the library, but I could probably add to it with the articles we’ve found on Harold.)

I have also checked around the relevant dates in the newspaper The Bulletin (the morning paper not available on Fulton) and found little except right before he was officially replaced in Sept, almost nothing went on that summer at the Y that was in the paper. Other than his replacement, the last time I found Harold mentioned was in the August 10, 1957 edition that he would be preaching at the Tabernacle Methodist Church with a sermon on "The Man who Fell Asleep." Perhaps I should put this in the Ross timeline page?

-Marie

Thanks to seagull