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Atlanta Child Murders & Letters: Killer, Zodiac or Hoaxer?

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(@theforeigner)
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What happens when you click this link?

If it doesn’t work, I’m wondering if your computer or internet service provider is blocking access to images on servimg.com.

As I wrote in my previous post:

I can se images on other threads (on this forum) so I assume it has not to do with my computer settings etc..

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : August 5, 2019 12:26 am
AK Wilks
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Well, I don’t know what the answer is, because everybody else can see the images.

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Posted : August 5, 2019 12:45 am
doranchak
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What happens when you click this link?

If it doesn’t work, I’m wondering if your computer or internet service provider is blocking access to images on servimg.com.

As I wrote in my previous post:

I can se images on other threads (on this forum) so I assume it has not to do with my computer settings etc..

Well those other images might be hosted on different sites other than servimg, which is why I’m asking about that specific link.
Can you click the link and tell us your result?

For example, when I click it, this image appears in my browser:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : August 5, 2019 3:18 am
(@theforeigner)
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What happens when you click this link?

If it doesn’t work, I’m wondering if your computer or internet service provider is blocking access to images on servimg.com.

As I wrote in my previous post:

I can se images on other threads (on this forum) so I assume it has not to do with my computer settings etc..

Well those other images might be hosted on different sites other than servimg, which is why I’m asking about that specific link.
Can you click the link and tell us your result?

For example, when I click it, this image appears in my browser:

I can see the image of the envelope with address:
KHJ-TV Studios,
5615 Melrose Ave.
Los Angeles 90038
that you posted, and when I click that link this turn up :

"Text in english:

The National High Tech Crime Center of the Danish National Police, who assist in investigations into crime on the internet, has informed TDC, that the internet page which your browser has tried to get in contact with may contain material which could be regarded as child pornography.

On recommandation of The National High Tech Crime Center of the Danish National Police TDC has blocked the access to the internet page. If you have any objections against the internet page being blocked, please contact TDC.

The Danish Anti-Distribution Filter covering pictures and movies showing sexual abuse of children is part of a European police co-operation (CIRCAMP) for the prevention of commercial and sexual exploitation of children.

According to Section 235 of the Danish Criminal Code it is a criminal offence to disseminate, possess or for a payment or through the internet to become acquainted with child pornography. The maximum penalty can in certain cases be imprisonment for up to 6 years.

Information on criminal conduct on the internet may be passed on to the National High Tech Crime Center of the Danish National Police.

Are you in need of help or guidance in relation to child pornography, please visit www.brydcirklen.dk.

"

And I have no idea how you came up with that link , please explaine that to me, this is all SO strange to me !!! :shock:

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : August 5, 2019 3:40 am
doranchak
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AK’s posts use an external website, called servimg, to host the images.
So the way his posts load in your web browser is that the links to the images in his posts tell your browser, "Go to the external web site to fetch the images". When they are fetched, your browser then draws them on your screen.

The link I posted is to one of those images.
But your result tells me your country (or the telecommunications company in compliance with the legal authorities) is banning that site, which is why the images can’t load.
It looks like servimg has been used at some point to host illegal materials, so the company or country decided to ban the entire web site.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : August 5, 2019 3:54 am
(@theforeigner)
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AK’s posts use an external website, called servimg, to host the images.
So the way his posts load in your web browser is that the links to the images in his posts tell your browser, "Go to the external web site to fetch the images". When they are fetched, your browser then draws them on your screen.

The link I posted is to one of those images.
But your result tells me your country (or the telecommunications company in compliance with the legal authorities) is banning that site, which is why the images can’t load.
It looks like servimg has been used at some point to host illegal materials, so the company or country decided to ban the entire web site.

OK thanks doranchak, I will contact danish authorities tomorrow and ask what is going on.

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : August 5, 2019 3:58 am
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It appears something is rotten in the State of Denmark.

 
Posted : August 5, 2019 5:01 am
AK Wilks
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I think you correctly identified what the source of the problem is, why she can’t see the images. That’s strange because I use a company called Image Shack, which is a pretty big reputable company, and I’ve never heard of any trouble that they’ve been in for posting images.

And apparently people in every state and in every other foreign country can see the images okay, so the Danish government must be very strict in their policy, if an image hosting company has even had one problem in the past, then they simply ban the company altogether.

If your government cant fix the problem, are there specific Atlanta letters, unconfirmed Z letters or specific images you wanted to see Foreigner? If so, perhaps you can indicate them to Doranchak and perhaps he or I could post them directly, with no use of Image Shack.

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Posted : August 5, 2019 6:55 am
doranchak
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I went ahead and took the following post and hosted the images on my site.

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AK Wilks:Whymore asked about several of the interesting letters that turned up in the Atlanta Child Murders case. One of them was signed by "Zodiac" and one demanded an end to forced busing, while threatening to kill three more boys in March. Three more boys did die in March.

Where any or all of these letters from the real Atlanta Child Killer, the real Zodiac or were they all from a hoaxer, perhaps the same hoaxer who did other fake Zodiac letters in a roughly similar time period.?

AK-
thanks for letting me know about the addresses. Makes sense now that you say it. I have seen many addresses listed but now that you mention it
they are usually are not current.

Won’t do that again.

Your research about the VANPAC is very compelling– tragic that Roy Moody was executed. Thank you for sharing it here.

I also recall a note postmarked 1981 March 2nd from Cleveland OH mailed to M.B.I. regarding the Atlanta child murders which spoke of forced bussing. This would predate the Dec.1989 VANPAC bombings but point to the fact that racial motivations were on the radar. I recall also
something about the 1981 note having a Chicago connection I think the mailer was included in a Chicago newspaper but I cant remember off hand the exact details?

[AK Wilks: Your memory is correct. See below.]

There was also the zodiac letter from march 8th, 1981 postmarked Atlanta with the peachtree address which places Z in the south potentially.
And Ted’s writings as the Unabomber and after he was convicted have obsessions with race/identity in them— so not surprising he would create
a persona to enact crimes which deal with racist ideology. I realize the VANPAC bombings are also a beard to change his MO- as the Unabomber bombings were attached to ideas of environmentalism and anti-techno rhetoric. The purpose being to narratively and geographically confuse people into not drawing a connection between the two.

[AK Wilks: Yes, the "Hello it’s me" letter. See below.]

Its ironic to say the least that Ted is upheld as a revolutionary thinker by some. The people who uphold him as a radical thinker would be shamed to think that the same person they idolize was also a racist, woman/couple hating psychopath who’s main concerns were not nature and philosophy but killing and the thrill it gave him to do so and get away with it.

AK Wilks: I moved this presentation and discussion of the Atlanta Child Killings letters you mentioned here.

Morf: Somehow, the actual image of this letter didn’t make it over to this thread(or I missed it),so here you go:

AK Wilks: EXCELLENT!!!

That IS the famous never before seen until now "Atlanta Child Murders" – "Zodiac" letter!

It was postmarked "Atlanta, GA March 8, 1981".

I wrote about it before:

I am doing a FOIA request for this letter mentioned in the FBI Atlanta Child Murders file.

It says it is from the Zodiac, and the FBI handwriting analyst could not say it was from Zodiac, but he could NOT exclude it as being from Zodiac.

All we know is it starts:

"Hello its me. Haven’t you…"


Another letter in this time frame, perhaps also from this "Zodiac", was a demand that the Washington Post classified run this ad as a secret message:

DANIEL PLEASE CALL HOME

[2019 AK Wilks: I find this fascinating. Ted Kaczynski used a system of placing ads in the classified section of newspapers, to convey secret messages to a radical environmentalist magazine, using an astrology pretext to convey the "stargazer’s lucky numbers", which were actually numbers that were a code. Even more fascinating, in the summer of 1968 in Michigan, a person with inside knowledge of the Robison murders (husband & wife couple, plus their four children), who police thought could be the actual killer, demanded that in order to get more information, police place an ad in the classified section saying "Dr. Guidini: Your prescription good. However, need additional. Zodius." The 6/25/68 Zodius Killer of the Robisons, like the 12/20/68 Zodiac Killer of Faraday and Jensen, used Winchester .22 Super X ammo fired from a gun with six lands and grooves with a right twist, identified by police as most consistent with and most likely coming from a Sears J.C. Higgins .22 pistol.]

At almost the same time, a message was sent in the same way as the Zodiac Sacramento Cancer and Leo cards – in a prepaid envelope.

This letter was treated as credible, there are 10 pages on it in the files, and 3 kids were killed that March in Atlanta.

Only three cities got this insert for classic model cars that the message came in – Harrisburg PA, Chicago IL and Long Beach FLA.

The FBI did not give Morf the ENVELOPE the Atlanta Zodiac letter "HELLO ITS ME" came in.

I just got it.

I had resubmitted my request for 4 Zodiac letters, dropping the request for analysis documents after the "hint" I got from the Justice Department Office of Information Services (and passed on to Morf). The others are the San Jose 1969 letter, the 1978 typed letter and most important the 1971 "In the woods dies April…Monticello" letter.

The envelope is addressed to 1611 W Peachtree ST NE 30308 (or maybe 30808?).

There is a NASA space shuttle sticker in the upper right, it appears to be a special collectors envelope???

Or a special machine cancel? Anyone have any idea how to find out where this machine cancel was used?

See http://spacecovers.com/cgi-bin/cimagedi … m_id=2165A

The stamp is from the Americana Series, the US Flag and the words THE LAND OF THE FREE THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.

The Unabomber (1978 – 1994), the Judge Vance bomber (1989), the Judi Bari bomber (1990) and the "Zodiac Killer" (in 1986 & 1987 letters) all used stamps with an American flag on them. Even more specifically, all of those I just mentioned used stamps from the same US flag over Monuments series. This is supposed to be four seperate criminals – did they all have a convention and decide "while were bombing and killing everybody, let’s at least be patriotic, and let’s all decide to use stamps from the great US flag over Monument series."

They even used some of the exact same stamps. Both The Vance bomber and the Bari bomber used the US flag over Yosemite stamp. Both the Unabomber and the Zodiac Killer used the US flag over the Capitol building stamp.

Now here is where it gets even more interesting …

Out of this 20 stamp AMERICANA collection, we have this Flag stamp used on the Zodiac Atlanta letter, and also the Eagle Shield and Flag stamp used on the May 1978 Possible Zodiac letter, the one sent to the LA TV station that was racist and referenced a death list and the Manson family.

ALSO…another stamp in this set was used by the Unabomber, AMERICAS LIGHT FUELED BY TRUTH AND REASON, RUSH LAMP.

See http://zodiackillersite.forummotion.com … e-envelope

AMERICANA SERIES

AMERICANA SERIES STAMP USED ON 1981 POSSIBLE ATLANTA ZODIAC LETTER

AMERICANA SERIES STAMP USED ON MAY 1978 POSSIBLE ZODIAC LETTER LOS ANGELES

AMERICANA SERIES STAMP USED ON FOUR UNABOMBER MAILBOMBS 1979 1980 1985 1985

MAY 1978 POSSIBLE ZODIAC LETTER LOS ANGELES ENVELOPE WITH AMERICANA SERIES STAMP EAGLE AND SHIELD

Text of May 1978 Possible Zodiac letter and March 1981 Possible Zodiac letter.

Both letters had a stamp from the same 4 stamp sheet from the Americana Series.

Both stamps have the red, white and blue.

Both texts are racist, taunting and mocking.

Both attempt to (mis)lead police into linking Zodiac into other crimes (Manson, Atlanta Child Murders).

Similar shaky handwriting?

Same Zodiac?

Same killer, who is not Zodiac?

Same hoaxer?


Look at the strange "S" in the Atlanta Zodiac envelope.

Now look at the similarly weird "S" on the Riverside poem, it also looks like an upside down "5". Both the Atlanta envelope and the poem have another Zodiac characteristic, a low cross on the "t".


http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : August 5, 2019 1:26 pm
(@theforeigner)
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doranchak, I can see all the images in your newest post, thank you very much :D

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : August 5, 2019 1:48 pm
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