When Theodore was in the bay area between 1966 to 1969 where did he reside? The man in the baggy brown pants and dark blue coat we see in the picture from the late 1960s. Most likely the same clothing he wore when he killed Stine. Otherwise it’s one hell of a coincidence if you ask me.

When was the first time that TK was in California?

Interestingly, the Zodiac mentioned the noise of motorcycles. That reminds me a lot of Ted Kaczynski. There are also many other clues which link both criminals. For example, "this is the Zodiac speaking" would also sound almost like "this is Ted Kazinski", if one were to rearrange the letters. That’s the kind of thing he would do. To leave a signature or a hidden message.

We have quite a few clues which could tie several different killing sprees and explain them. If the police would only use DNA to narrow down the suspect. He may have been aware that DNA would be a tool in the future to identify elusive criminals but anyhow the evidence to me is clear that the Unabomber could be implicated in many more crimes.

Kaczynski was deeply sexually frustrated and the killings of families, couples and young college girls would also be expected if he were to kill, as he wrote in 1966 he would. Sexual frustration and inability to interact with the opposite sex would be the core reason for his anger and frustrations IMO.

Another important aspect is how the geographical areas involved are tied to the life of Theodore Kaczynski.

The Golden State Killer was identified via DNA testing, on Gedmatch. By doing so, the police uncovered several other "careers" of James DeAngelo. It is only now in 2020 I have realized "the Unabomber" may have been just one of the criminal "careers" of Theodore Kaczynski. He would be very keen in keeping the rest of them secret so as to preserve the image he somehow managed to create as someone interested in the environment and the betterment of mankind.

You raise several interesting points. I’ll comment on a few of them a little bit later on.

Yes both Zodiac and Ted commented on their annoyance at loud motorcycles. Zodiac commented on the loud police motorcycles in the park that night and Ted frequently wrote in his journal about the sound of loud motorcycles in the woods and trails by his cabin. He wrote of his desire to shoot a person riding on a noisy motorcycle, and then kick him in the face as he lie dying on the ground.

I don’t recall Zodiac ever commenting on airplanes or flight attendants. Could you give me that reference?

Did not know about z making reference to loud motorcycle pipes or i just forget….may be tk inner self switched to environmental terrorist/corporate terrorism after he tired of being z….if your never caught and with tk’s intelligence i can see see him being bored with it all-time for a new game so to speak..however it could be z and tk feared loud pipes and there association with cops and motorcycle gang members…cops rode harleys as did hells angels along with many other 1%’er motorcycle gangs…..honda had its iconic ad’s in the 60’s/70’s read "you meet the nicest people on a honda"…the american motorcycle association put out an article stating that 99% of cycle owners were good people in 1947 and 1% are "outlaw"… all stems from an event in hollister california..

I don’t recall Zodiac ever commenting on airplanes or flight attendants. Could you give me that reference?

I was mistaken about that. I think it was mentioned by the murderer of Bates or by someone else suspected to have been the Zodiac in another murder though not definitely linked to him.

On this video, FBI criminal profiler John Douglas spoke on the personality of the Zodiac. He also said that of Kaczynski shows the "same kind of thing" (~ 4:30 to 4:50; obsessive-compulsive personality):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2qaDKBqCTE

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (OCPD) is a personality disorder that’s characterized by extreme perfectionism, order, and neatness. People with OCPD will also feel a severe need to impose their own standards on their outside environment.

People with OCPD have the following characteristics:

They find it hard to express their feelings.
They have difficulty forming and maintaining close relationships with others.
They’re hardworking, but their obsession with perfection can make them inefficient.
They often feel righteous, indignant, and angry.
They often face social isolation.
They can experience anxiety that occurs with depression.

https://www.healthline.com/health/obses … y-disorder

Interesting thread at Zkdotcom.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/zodiack … t9348.html

If taken at face value, Ted was likely in Canada from at least June 30th to August 14th, 1970. Which could, theoretically, put him out of the running for sending the July Zodiac letters.

Now, I am aware of remailing services, we don’t have the envelopes to scrutinize, "Ted was trying to create an alibi," "We don’t know he was in Canada the entire time," etc. Still, this is the first time I’ve seen anything that placed Ted in a specific location during relevant Zodiac dates.

Quick question. Has anyone ever compared the mailboxes where TJK mailed his letters/packages to the mailboxes that Z mailed his?

I was watching manhunt last night and they very breifly showed a map of the mail box locations that TJK used. I was unable to locate that map on the internet but it got me thinking of the question I just posed.

I THINK that they were only to identify 1 or possibly 2 mailboxes that Z used …. buy would be interesting to compare the lists if it hasn’t already been done before.

If it HAS been done – would someone direct me to that info please?

Thank you! And MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!
margie

It’s a good question and one I do not know the answer to. When I get a chance I’ll check through my materials and see if I can get an answer.

I think most of the Zodiac letters were mailed from the San Francisco general area, as were most of the Unabomber letters. Ted would leave Montana and take a bus to San Francisco just for the purpose of mailing a letter or bomb as the Unabomber.

Of course both Zodiac and Unabomber wrote to newspapers, demanding that their words appear on the front page or Innocents would die. Specifically, they both wrote to the San Francisco Chronicle.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

It’s a good question and one I do not know the answer to. When I get a chance I’ll check through my materials and see if I can get an answer.

I think most of the Zodiac letters were mailed from the San Francisco general area, as were most of the Unabomber letters. Ted would leave Montana and take a bus to San Francisco just for the purpose of mailing a letter or bomb as the Unabomber.

Of course both Zodiac and Unabomber wrote to newspapers, demanding that their words appear on the front page or Innocents would die. Specifically, they both wrote to the San Francisco Chronicle.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.

I have tried to attach a screen shot of the page showing TJK’s mail drop locations. Not sure if that will work or not. And also not sure if it will actually yielded any usable info.

I did do a cursory search of the locations of Z’s mail drops and it shows two and possibly three locations are known:

1. Van Ness and Union
2. 23rd and Taraval
3. THIS PART IS FROM CHAUCER: I have also heard today – from a source I’d consider reliable – that one letter was sent from Outer Sunset and another near City College. If true – big if – that means Outer Sunset is near Route 1 and City College is a 5 minute walk from the San Francisco Chronicle and a ten minute walk from Mason and Geary. This would add more credence to the idea of two Zodiac "hot spots": the north-south corridor of Route 1 and a cluster between the Financial District and the 101.

As you can see by the following link – there are 61 pages to review in regard to the mailboxes that Z used. I’ve made it to page 3. But I thought that I would link it here so that I can possibly remember that I need to read through the whole thing and see if I can find more info.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4331&hilit=postmarks

AKWILKS: Let me know what you find!

To me its incredible that there are so many match ups between Ted and Zodiac, both SF Bay area residents obsessed with code making and bomb designs, they look alike, write alike, Ted even makes home made hoods, yet I can’t seem to advance the case. Which puts me in the same boat as everyone else "Hey my poi is great!"

Also, consider that a welding mask such as the type found in Ted’s cabin could provide the odd structure for the Zodiac hood. Others have speculated that Zodiac may have had a welding mask underneath the hood. Its odd that Ted had a welding mask, but no welding equipment and no electricity anyway! EAR/ONS also was reported wearing a welding mask.

AK, the following is more FYI than OMG.

Strange…they called that run-of-the-mill face shield a "welding mask"? A welding mask is a helmet with a tinted visor.

I couldn’t find "face shield" on the inventory list ( http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/unabo … ned?page=2 ). So either:

– There was a welding mask, but they left the face shield off the list for some reason

– They goofed

To me its incredible that there are so many match ups between Ted and Zodiac, both SF Bay area residents obsessed with code making and bomb designs, they look alike, write alike, Ted even makes home made hoods, yet I can’t seem to advance the case. Which puts me in the same boat as everyone else "Hey my poi is great!"

Also, consider that a welding mask such as the type found in Ted’s cabin could provide the odd structure for the Zodiac hood. Others have speculated that Zodiac may have had a welding mask underneath the hood. Its odd that Ted had a welding mask, but no welding equipment and no electricity anyway! EAR/ONS also was reported wearing a welding mask.

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AK Wilks:

Ted K skeptics – Morf:

I am curious as to why you think Zodiac and Ted Kaczynski are the "opposite" kind of killers? First of all, unlike every other major named suspect, THEY WERE BOTH SERIAL KILLERS.

When I talked to Paul Holes many years ago, I told him that some police dismissed Ted as a major Z suspect because he only killed with bombs (that we know of for sure). Paul told me that in his opinion sometimes police were "overly rigid" with their profiles. He said what was more important to him than weapon of choice was the desire to kill and actually killing strangers. He noted Ted had actually killed people, unlike every other credible suspect. He also said the overwhelming majority of the murders he saw every day were people killing people they know. Husbands and wives, boyfriends and girlfriends, family members, neighbors, even competing criminal gangs, etc. The killer knows the victim. Very rare is one who kills perfect strangers, as Z and Ted did.

So both Zodiac and Ted are serial killers who kill people they never met. That is a rare group. Even rarer is that they both wrote to newspapers and police about their crimes. He said contrary to what is often shown in TV and movies, most serial killers do NOT write letters to newspapers or police. Bundy, Gacy and the vast majority of serial killers DO NOT write letters to media or police. Both Z and TK wrote to newspapers, so he found it very interesting that they shared that trait.