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Facts & Evidence – Ted Kaczynski As The Zodiac

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Hold up everyone – stop the presses!

The case has been cracked, the murders have been solved:

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"Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas." Albert Einstein

 
Posted : May 24, 2021 7:43 am
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AK Wilks:

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Found in Ted’s cabin were a black hood, flat on top, with rectangular eye slits, a gun with a flashlight attached to the barrel and Winchester .22 Super X ammo Z used a black hood, flat on top, rectangular eye slits.

Z bragged of using a gun with a flashlight attached. Z used Winchester .22 Super X ammo at LHR 68 and the killer at SB 63 used the same ammo. The ZODIUS killer of 6/25/68 in Michigan also used Winchester .22 Super X ammo.

NEW UPDATE:

Found in the Kaczynski cabin, it is a Flat Top BLACK hood with rectangular eye slits.

Compare it to the Flat Top Zodiac BLACK hood with rectangular eye slits:

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Posted : May 24, 2021 11:43 am
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In terms of Ted’s IQ, in relation to what Zodiac’s psychological profile states his IQ might be(if such a document even exist), i’m kinda curious to know what type of math skills, if any, would be required to create a cryptogram that would require a supercomputer to break over 50 years later (Z340), whatever skills are required, I’d really bet that Ted meets the standard, or more likely, exceeds it.

It’s my understanding that the decoding of the Z340 revealed he made mistakes in the encryption making it more difficult to decrypt. It also seems that an old US Army field manual may have been used to create and write the code. I feel like Ted would more than have the required skills to create a complex code on his own.. Zodiacs codes have a vibe of someone who needed a "practical" guide or "manual" to do not just the code, but several other things as well. I don’t think Ted was Zodiac.

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Posted : May 24, 2021 8:22 pm
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I don’t really find it strange that Kaczynski had an old weld hood, if he was assembling an explosive device, he may have been wearing it as PPE in case it detonated. Something is better than nothing.

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Posted : May 24, 2021 8:29 pm
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Well, that "welding mask" (listed under "Tools") was on the auction block, along with the two hoods (listed separately under "Clothing"), but all I can find is a video of that face shield on Youtube. So I’m tempted to think Ted didn’t actually own a welding mask, though I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

 
Posted : May 24, 2021 10:00 pm
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In terms of Ted’s IQ, in relation to what Zodiac’s psychological profile states his IQ might be(if such a document even exist), i’m kinda curious to know what type of math skills, if any, would be required to create a cryptogram that would require a supercomputer to break over 50 years later (Z340), whatever skills are required, I’d really bet that Ted meets the standard, or more likely, exceeds it.

It’s my understanding that the decoding of the Z340 revealed he made mistakes in the encryption making it more difficult to decrypt. It also seems that an old US Army field manual may have been used to create and write the code. I feel like Ted would more than have the required skills to create a complex code on his own.. Zodiacs codes have a vibe of someone who needed a "practical" guide or "manual" to do not just the code, but several other things as well. I don’t think Ted was Zodiac.

The mistakes Ted made were intentional in order to increase difficulty of solution. The argument that Ted was too much of a math and code genius to make the flawed Zodiac codes does not hold water. The FBI regularly broke codes created by the KGB, the mafia and drug cartels. Yet they could not break the Zodiac 340 for 50 years, until Doranchak did it.

Look at the work of Jelberg showing similarities between the Unabomber codes in Period 19 with a +8 sequence. out of the thousand of possible codes, Ted as the Unabomber worked a variation of adding two to the base sequence. That is not just a coincidence.

viewtopic.php?f=102&t=3997

The similarities are remarkable.

Jelberg: Just an observation.

Notice any similarities?

340 Period 19 normal/mirror

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Matrix for Kaczynski’s "Code #1"

Same pattern but with some type of cycling Fibonacci pattern.

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Nash Equilibrium applied to poker and other games generates the same type of pattern…


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*edit*
more to the pattern…
two on right = left (except @ the arrow?)

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The 80 (with the strangely bold 8) that doesn’t follow the sequence,
directly splits the diagonal row into two length 15 halves.
It is also 15 squares in from the lower left corner.

Jelberg: Just an observation.

Notice any similarities?

340 Period 19 normal/mirror

enlarge


enlarge

Matrix for Kaczynski’s "Code #1"

Same pattern but with some type of cycling Fibonacci pattern.

enlarge

Nash Equilibrium applied to poker and other games generates the same type of pattern…


enlarge

*edit*
more to the pattern…
two on right = left (except @ the arrow?)

enlarge

The 80 (with the strangely bold 8) that doesn’t follow the sequence,
directly splits the diagonal row into two length 15 halves.
It is also 15 squares in from the lower left corner.

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Posted : May 26, 2021 8:14 am
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The mistakes Ted made were intentional in order to increase difficulty of solution. The argument that Ted was too much of a math and code genius to make the flawed Zodiac codes does not hold water. The FBI regularly broke codes created by the KGB, the mafia and drug cartels. Yet they could not break the Zodiac 340 for 50 years, until Doranchak did it.

Look at the work of Jelberg showing similarities between the Unabomber codes in Period 19 with a +8 sequence. out of the thousand of possible codes, Ted as the Unabomber worked a variation of adding two to the base sequence. That is not just a coincidence.

It very well could be a coincidence, the Zodiac case is loaded with coincidences. It is very fascinating.

Mah-na Mah-na

 
Posted : May 26, 2021 5:59 pm
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AK Wilks:

Ted K skeptics – Morf:

I am curious as to why you think Zodiac and Ted Kaczynski are the "opposite" kind of killers? First of all, unlike every other major named suspect, THEY WERE BOTH SERIAL KILLERS.

When I talked to Paul Holes many years ago, I told him that some police dismissed Ted as a major Z suspect because he only killed with bombs (that we know of for sure). Paul told me that in his opinion sometimes police were "overly rigid" with their profiles. He said what was more important to him than weapon of choice was the desire to kill and actually killing strangers. He noted Ted had actually killed people, unlike every other credible suspect. He also said the overwhelming majority of the murders he saw every day were people killing people they know. Husbands and wives, boyfriends and girlfriends, family members, neighbors, even competing criminal gangs, etc. The killer knows the victim. Very rare is one who kills perfect strangers, as Z and Ted did.

So both Zodiac and Ted are serial killers who kill people they never met. That is a rare group. Even rarer is that they both wrote to newspapers and police about their crimes. He said contrary to what is often shown in TV and movies, most serial killers do NOT write letters to newspapers or police. Bundy, Gacy and the vast majority of serial killers DO NOT write letters to media or police. Both Z and TK wrote to newspapers, so he found it very interesting that they shared that very rare trait.

He spent a year and made a one shot .22 pistol from wood and junk parts that he wrote he intended to use up close and personal as a "homicide weapon". As a one shot untraceable weapon, it would best be used in situations up close and personal were the victim was immobile, such as being bound.

In the journal that described all 16 Unabomber crimes, including three murders by bomb, he wrote that he buried or burned accounts of other unspecified crimes. At a time when the Unabomber was getting some favorable opinions from radical environmental and primitivist anarchist journals and groups, he wrote he buried or burned accounts of these unspecified "other" crimes because their revelation could be "dangerous", "embarrassing" or "just very bad public relations at this point in time".

Certainly stabbing and shooting teens in lovers lanes would not be good for his image as a deadly but principled guerrilla and terrorist fighting large corporations and spoilers of the Earth.

Third, Zodiac wrote letters to newspapers threatening to kill innocents unless his words appeared in the paper. Ted wrote letters to newspapers threatening to kill innocents unless his words appeared in the paper.

Fourth, Zodiac killed couples in known make out and lovemaking spots. In September 1966, after a failed bid for a sex change operation and thoughts of suicide, Ted wrote that instead of killing himself he would and could now "REALLY kill" those he "hated", which included couples having sex (which was driving him "mad" as he suffered from what he called "acute sexual starvation"), "college students", "promiscuous" men and especially "promiscuous" women, who were just "animals", "pigs". Zodiac moved on to bomb threats, designing bombs, sniper threats and creating an elaborate code the FBI could not break. Ted designed bombs, made bomb threats, did bomb attacks, did a sniper attack, created an elaborate code the FBI could not break.

Look at these other similarities.

* Kacsynski lived in the SF Bay area during the time of most of the confirmed Zodiac murders. He was a professor at the University of California Berkeley from 1967 until the summer of 1969. It is said at the Zodiac Killer website (without any supporting evidence presented) that Ted K was out of the State of California on several dates of Zodiac activity. This is false.

* Both Zodiac and Kaczynski were ruthless killers, highly intelligent and interested in and expert at bombs and codes.

* Both made references to opera, literature and Norse myths.

* Both left drawings of crossed lines inside circles at crime.

* Both owned and used Winchester .22 Super X ammo.

* Both had guns with flashlights attached to the barrel.

* Kaczynski shot a man at a mining site with a rifle – Zodiac threatened to shoot school kids on a bus with a rifle

* Ted’s one contact with the police before he started committing crimes was he was pulled over by the police and given a ticket for not stopping for a school bus.

* Both had knowledge of Deer Lodge, Montana. Zodiac said he escaped from the prison in Deer Lodge, Montana. And weeks earlier Ted had just driven through this same area with his brother. It made such an impression on him that he bought a cabin there.

* Zodiac taunted police, hinted he shot SFPD Officer Radetich and most importantly attacked and killed couples in known love making spots; Kaczynski recorded a desire in his journal to kill "police", "college students", "promiscuous" women and men and "noisy" love making "couples" in September of 1966.

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Found in Ted’s cabin were a black hood, flat on top, with rectangular eye slits, a gun with a flashlight attached to the barrel and Winchester .22 Super X ammo. Z used a black hood, flat on top, rectangular eye slits. Z bragged of using a gun with a flashlight attached. Z used Winchester .22 Super X ammo at LHR 68 and the killer at SB 63 used the same ammo.

NEW UPDATE:

Found in the Kaczynski cabin, it is a Flat Top BLACK hood with rectangular eye slits.

Compare it to the Flat Top Zodiac BLACK hood with rectangular eye slits:

As for signature, they both left crossed lines inside and over circles at crime scenes, with further writing indicating weapon used and previous crimes. Zodiac added
By Knife" to indicate the weapon used and added the dates of previous attacks to take credit for those crimes. The Unabomber added "FC", which was stamped on previously sent pipe bombs, so adding FC to the symbol drawing did ndicate weapon used and previous crimes committed.

And unlike any other named suspect, Doug Oswell and I have identified more than 26 words and even multi-word phrases that both Z and TK used: just some of the rxamples of ZK/TK shared words and phrases are blast, trigger mechanism, busy work, around in the snow, contrary to what police say, to prove I am responsible, information only I and the police know, Deplorable, goes bang, watched from cover, rather messy, be sure to, the damned thing, shabby, fiddle around,nasty, fat ass,etc., etc., etc. Plus the amazing handwriting matches. See shared words and handwriting here: viewtopic.php?f=102&t=250

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Posted : May 26, 2021 7:20 pm
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I think Ted is an excellent match for the SFPD poster. If not the best.

I don’t personally like the handing writing comparison. It has been isolated letter by letter. I would prefer to see a sample taken out word by word, and shown randomly. I think there is a psychological factor that might want to inadvertently associate Teds writing with Zodiacs, because the maker of the comparison used Zodiacs words with Teds letters. Surely nothing like that would ever be admissible in court. I’m not a handwriting analyst, but I’m will to bet that the formation of one letter in a sentence is influenced by how the previous letter was formed by the writer. Ted never actually formed those words in the comparison, just the letters(maybe i’m wrong on that, i’m assuming he formed it from isolating letters, not words) But the totality of both Teds and Zodiacs is freakishly similar, for sure.

At least he’s a lot more interesting than ALA.

Surely they have ruled out Ted with the partial fingerprint/DNA they believe or think is Zodiacs, right? I’ve never seen anything that conclusively says they have.

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Posted : May 26, 2021 11:01 pm
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I think Ted is an excellent match for the SFPD poster. If not the best.

I don’t personally like the handing writing comparison. It has been isolated letter by letter. I would prefer to see a sample taken out word by word, and shown randomly. I think there is a psychological factor that might want to inadvertently associate Teds writing with Zodiacs, because the maker of the comparison used Zodiacs words with Teds letters. Surely nothing like that would ever be admissible in court. I’m not a handwriting analyst, but I’m will to bet that the formation of one letter in a sentence is influenced by how the previous letter was formed by the writer. Ted never actually formed those words in the comparison, just the letters(maybe i’m wrong on that, i’m assuming he formed it from isolating letters, not words) But the totality of both Teds and Zodiacs is freakishly similar, for sure.

At least he’s a lot more interesting than ALA.

Surely they have ruled out Ted with the partial fingerprint/DNA they believe or think is Zodiacs, right? I’ve never seen anything that conclusively says they have.

I can tell you, conclusively and absolutely, Ted’s DNA from his body has never been compared to suspected Zodiac DNA. I am working right now to change that and to get that comparison made.

From Mark Hewitt’s new book "Exposed", which reveals the identity of the Zodiac Killer as Ted Kaczynski. Under the Fair Use policy I present the following comparison of Kaczynski writing the word "Zodiac", in a letter to Mark Hewitt, and the Zodiac Killer writing the word Zodiac in the LA Times letter. Note that the spacing, word formation and letter structure are near identical.

Overall, the book is excellent, and builds upon the work done by Doug Oswell and AK Wilks, and makes several new and important contributions. I will give a full review in the Zodiac Media section tonight or tomorrow.

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Posted : May 27, 2021 7:34 am
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The mistakes Ted made were intentional in order to increase difficulty of solution. The argument that Ted was too much of a math and code genius to make the flawed Zodiac codes does not hold water. The FBI regularly broke codes created by the KGB, the mafia and drug cartels. Yet they could not break the Zodiac 340 for 50 years, until Doranchak did it.

Look at the work of Jelberg showing similarities between the Unabomber codes in Period 19 with a +8 sequence. out of the thousand of possible codes, Ted as the Unabomber worked a variation of adding two to the base sequence. That is not just a coincidence.

It very well could be a coincidence, the Zodiac case is loaded with coincidences. It is very fascinating.

This is well beyond mere coincidence. Ted’s construction of codes matches Zodiac construction of codes at several key points.

David Oranchak, Jarvle and Sam Blake have solved the Mt. Everest of unsolved codes, the Zodiac 340 Code, and the solution has been confirmed by the FBI.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu … r-1102927/

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/n … her-solved

We can all agree that this was great work by Dave, Jarvle and Sam, with the important contributions over the years by glurk, smokie treats and many others. So we can agree that this was great work, a real achievement, while at the same time being disappointed that this solve of the Z340 does not seem to shed any further light on the identity of the Zodiac.

Important update by doranchak. How the Zodiac 340 might have been created. Note that the solved Z 340 involves vertical and diagonal elements.

Latest episode is out!
Check out my new video about the aftermath of the 340 solution, and how the cipher might have been created.

https://youtu.be/UfrFSrI05hk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfrFSrI05hk

But I think it does shed some light on the identity of Zodiac.

First, that this is revealed as a real code, a complex one, one that defied the efforts of the FBI and others to decode it for 50 years. I think it tells us that Z was very intelligent, had some real skill in codes and mathematics.

More importantly, this solved Zodiac 340 Code is very complex, multi – step, the decoding process involves adding numbers together to get the next step (17 + 2 = Period 19), it is multi-directional, including diagonal, and has numerous misspellings, with all or most likely being intentional to increase the difficulty of solution. This presents a very unique set of elements. The solvers do not seem aware of any other criminal or non-criminal code that employs these exact elements. If there was another code that used these exact same elements, I would think the FBI would be very interested in looking at the creator of such a code. A code like the solved Z340 is so complex, with so many specific elements, it presents something so unique that it is almost like a signature.

I am here to notify the solvers, and others, that there is a person, a criminal, a serial killer, a bomber and someone who, like Zodiac, wrote to newspapers stating innocents would die unless his words appeared on the front pages, who created and used a complex, multi-step, multi-directional code involving diagonal sequences.

This code is even more complex than the Z340. But he created this code probably in 1979 or thereabouts, so imagine the creator of the Z340 but with at least 10 more years of knowledge and experience in code creation.

Like the Z340, this code is complex, multi-step, you have to add numbers together to get the next step (17 + 2= period 19), is multi-directional, including diagonal, and has many misspelled words, all or most likely being intentional.

This was the code created and used by the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski.

I know Dave, the other solvers and all of us here want more than anything for this code breakthrough to lead to a real breakthrough in the case, bringing the Zodiac to justice and bringing the survivors and the loved ones of the victims some real closure. I would ask Dave, Jarvle, Sam and others with expertise in codes to examine this evidence with an open mind.

When the FBI raided Ted’s cabin, they found a notebook with pages and pages of entries that just consisted of numbers, commas and spaces. They guessed it was a record of his crimes, but they could not break the code. Just like the creator of the Z340, Ted had created a code that the FBI could not break. It was not until they found the code key in the cabin that they were able to break the code, and found out that it was indeed a journal of all his Unabomber crimes, including three murders by bombs, bombings that injured over twenty, an attempt to blow up a passenger jet in mid-flight and the shooting and wounding of a worker at a mining site with a rifle.

The following was published in a cryptology journal details how the code worked. The author is member of the FBI Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU). I am now in the process of alerting this member of the FBI CRRU to the similarities in the solved 340 and Unabomber codes.




EXAMPLES OF ZODIAC & KACZYNSKI USING AN INTENTIONAL MISSPELLING TO INCREASE DIFFICULTY OF DECODING

Zodiac 408 Code: DANGEROUE
Unabomber Code: YESTERDAE

Both Zodiac and Kaczynski have a code in which in order to increase difficulty of solution they change the last consonant(the letters "S" and "Y") in a word to the vowel "E".

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Posted : May 27, 2021 12:07 pm
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Ted Kaczynski was subjected to Henry A Murray’s unethical and frankly, abusive psychological experiment.

“Subjects were incompletely informed about the nature of the experiment [and] were tricked, or coerced, into remaining in the experiment. Given that the procedures were designed to ‘break’ enemy agents and render them so damaged that they would be operationally useless, it is reasonable to expect that they would have the same consequences for vulnerable young people who did not have specialized training to resist interrogation.”

Interesting in terms of ‘I’m crackproof’. Wonder if there is a link between ‘fk’, Harvard, the essay that Kaczynski submitted and or Henry Murray?

 
Posted : May 27, 2021 3:24 pm
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Ted’s encipherment system is interesting. I’m hoping to make a video about it one day.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : May 27, 2021 4:28 pm
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Ted’s encipherment system is interesting. I’m hoping to make a video about it one day.

Interesting generally, or interesting Zodiac?

 
Posted : May 27, 2021 6:56 pm
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Quoting Chaucer from a completely different thread……

The real question is how accurate was the post-PH sketch? It wasn’t done with a sketch artist. It was done on an Ident-A-Kit which is essentially a Mr. Potato head where witness pick and choose from a list of hairstyles, eyebrows, lips, noses, etc.

I try to keep this in mind when looking at the sketch, it seems as if 100s, or more likely thousands of people match the sketch.

If the code was made from an old US Army crypto manual, that means anybody could have used a code.

Did Ted create his own code, or copy it from an old Army manual? Does anyone even definitively know? Or, is this type of code that is simply a mathematically logical conclusion to come to for someone trying to create an uncrackable code. Many breakthroughs and inventions throughout human history has been stumbled upon by different people at the same time on different parts of the planet, this could really be no different.

Ted is in prison. That means his DNA is in Codis.
The partial DNA profile of the Zodiac is no doubt in Codis.
We know the partial Zodiac DNA profile has been tested against Codis.
Teds prints are in NCIC.
The Partial prints have been ran against NCIC.
Zodiac and Ted should match. Unless, ….

1. The search was somehow done improperly or it’s algorithm can’t match because the sample is to low quality.
2. The information was improperly entered into the system.
3. Ted is a DNA chimera.
4. There is no Zodiac DNA or fingerprint profiles, the police made it up to get tips coming in.
5. Investigators have lied about actually checking Zodiac info against Codis and NCIC.
6. Ted isnt Zodiac.

Mah-na Mah-na

 
Posted : May 27, 2021 8:51 pm
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