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Zodiac Code: Solved!: Confession of the Zodiac Killer

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doranchak
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Zodiac Code: Solved!: Confession of the Zodiac Killer Kindle Edition
by Michael D. Sechrest (Author), Tom Voigt (Foreword)

Here’s Tom’s forward:

I haven’t reviewed Sechrest’s solution claim in the book but I’ve seen his cipher work before and it seems problematic.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : May 10, 2017 10:38 pm
Tahoe27
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I’m always a bit weary of self-proclaimed solves.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 3:29 am
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Hi-

This claim is perplexing. If this gentleman has a cipher key that is as compelling as that of the Hardens was, there would be universal acceptance of his work and no need to bet anyone $10k. The solution would be self-evident, left-brained and irrefutable. Is that the case? The Intro is very short and says little about the actual solution and why it is so compelling. I wonder if it is suspect specific. Also, why didn’t he go to code experts with his solution before publishing it? Seems that some crypto society could have verified his work beforehand. That is an error Wakshull made a few years ago with handwriting.

Mike

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Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 5:24 am
doranchak
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I’m always a bit weary of self-proclaimed solves.

Good to be weary. The going rate for credibility of such self-proclaimed solves is somewhere around zero. :)

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 5:38 am
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I’m always a bit weary of self-proclaimed solves.

Good to be weary. The going rate for credibility of such self-proclaimed solves is somewhere around zero. :)

Can I get my money back?? You are actually mentioned in the book a couple of times. Nothing negative.

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 6:50 am
doranchak
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Can I get my money back?? You are actually mentioned in the book a couple of times. Nothing negative.

What did you think of the solution? I assume you weren’t sold on it. :)

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 1:57 pm
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has anyone got a copy of the solution?

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 2:11 pm
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Can I get my money back?? You are actually mentioned in the book a couple of times. Nothing negative.

What did you think of the solution? I assume you weren’t sold on it. :)

At first I got excited and felt he was on to something. As he continued, more and more assumptions were made. Even though he states it was unforced, it seemed very forced. In addition there were several assumptions in Z misspellings which has to be problematic. Not to mention, the message didn’t make much sense. Overall, I respect his efforts but don’t believe his solution to be viable.

In fairness to the author, I am not going to be too critical. If he was being honest about himself, he probably doesn’t need the money and there was "potentially" good intentions towards the end….assuming the reward is genuine. 10k is weak though. :)

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 3:59 pm
doranchak
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That’s too bad. I would expect that having made such assumptions in his approach, it would be straightforward to demonstrate that those and other assumptions would lead to numerous alternate solutions to the one he presented. Since so many alternates exist, his solution is therefore less likely to be correct.

In more formal terms, he has to prove that the null hypothesis isn’t true. The null hypothesis in this case would be that his solution is just noise or coincidence. Or put another way, that there is no connection between his solution and the true solution.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : May 11, 2017 4:04 pm
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I’ll wait for the cliff notes version,or book reports from you all ;) Not holding my breath here

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

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Posted : May 11, 2017 5:12 pm
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I bought the book yesterday and just finished it. I was hesitant to read it but decided to for two reasons. 1. I read most Z books that come out (except self-published ones). 2. Tom gave his support. Although I do not always see eye-to-eye with Tom’s theories I respect him. I’ve have met him and feel his goals are legit.

Given that Tom gave his support I was surprised by the suspect listed. I know Tom tends to lean heavily towards Gyke, a theory I do not share, but the suspect was surprising. I also was hesitant about the book because I don’t believe the cipher can be broken. I believe Z thought his first was more cleaver than it was and was surprised it was cracked so fast. I feel like he then decided to write another statement and simply assigned random symbols. That way he knows there was a message behind it and but no one will ever actually know what it is. Z can simply enjoy people struggling with it while feeling he released valuable info that is still being passed around today.

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 12:05 am
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just looked at the solve ..and it seems like a lot of white noise.

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 9:44 am
doranchak
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Looks like he made some words appear but still has loads of gibberish in the solve. I’ve seen many solutions like that in the past. It’s not hard to come up with them. Here’s an example Trav came up a while ago:

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2490 6″> https://web.archive.org/web/20130116023 … hp?p=24906

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 2:18 pm
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Wait how does the $10,000 wager work?

If I prove him wrong? Come up with a better suspect/solution?

http://TheZodiacKiller.com

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 6:09 pm
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Is it worth dropping $10 ?

http://TheZodiacKiller.com

 
Posted : May 12, 2017 6:10 pm
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