Please create from the method which you call "numerology" with things that Zodiac did the same thing. Prove me wrong by pointing other suspects.
Use logic, since the context is the case excencia.
Do not forget that the case is about the Zodiac.
That’s the point …

The context is not valid?!
Sorry this is not logical …

The same important dates can be generated from other contexts. That means there’s nothing special about the context here, because the method gives you freedom to find whatever you want.

"The same important dates can be generated from other contexts. That means there’s nothing special about the context here, because the method gives you freedom to find whatever you want."

ok
However, until now, you did not present mathematical arguments

If the context of the Zodiac case does not apply to you, then what is valid?!

I look forward logical arguments.

however, thanks for the debate and analysis on your point of view my work.
The other participants, who each draw your own conclusions.
Marcelo

other coincidence??!!

Coincidence??

Yes – there are many ways to generate those numbers using dates in 1968 and 1969:

Here are all the ways to generate "12":

01/29/68, 0+1+2+9+6+8=26=2*6=12
02/19/68, 0+2+1+9+6+8=26=2*6=12
02/28/68, 0+2+2+8+6+8=26=2*6=12
03/09/68, 0+3+0+9+6+8=26=2*6=12
03/18/68, 0+3+1+8+6+8=26=2*6=12
03/27/68, 0+3+2+7+6+8=26=2*6=12
04/08/68, 0+4+0+8+6+8=26=2*6=12
04/17/68, 0+4+1+7+6+8=26=2*6=12
04/26/68, 0+4+2+6+6+8=26=2*6=12
05/07/68, 0+5+0+7+6+8=26=2*6=12
05/16/68, 0+5+1+6+6+8=26=2*6=12
05/25/68, 0+5+2+5+6+8=26=2*6=12
06/06/68, 0+6+0+6+6+8=26=2*6=12
06/15/68, 0+6+1+5+6+8=26=2*6=12
06/24/68, 0+6+2+4+6+8=26=2*6=12
07/05/68, 0+7+0+5+6+8=26=2*6=12
07/14/68, 0+7+1+4+6+8=26=2*6=12
07/23/68, 0+7+2+3+6+8=26=2*6=12
08/04/68, 0+8+0+4+6+8=26=2*6=12
08/13/68, 0+8+1+3+6+8=26=2*6=12
08/22/68, 0+8+2+2+6+8=26=2*6=12
08/31/68, 0+8+3+1+6+8=26=2*6=12
09/03/68, 0+9+0+3+6+8=26=2*6=12
09/12/68, 0+9+1+2+6+8=26=2*6=12
09/21/68, 0+9+2+1+6+8=26=2*6=12
09/29/68, 0+9+2+9+6+8=34=3*4=12
09/30/68, 0+9+3+0+6+8=26=2*6=12
10/29/68, 1+0+2+9+6+8=26=2*6=12
11/19/68, 1+1+1+9+6+8=26=2*6=12
11/28/68, 1+1+2+8+6+8=26=2*6=12
12/09/68, 1+2+0+9+6+8=26=2*6=12
12/18/68, 1+2+1+8+6+8=26=2*6=12
12/27/68, 1+2+2+7+6+8=26=2*6=12
01/19/69, 0+1+1+9+6+9=26=2*6=12
01/28/69, 0+1+2+8+6+9=26=2*6=12
02/09/69, 0+2+0+9+6+9=26=2*6=12
02/18/69, 0+2+1+8+6+9=26=2*6=12
02/27/69, 0+2+2+7+6+9=26=2*6=12
03/08/69, 0+3+0+8+6+9=26=2*6=12
03/17/69, 0+3+1+7+6+9=26=2*6=12
03/26/69, 0+3+2+6+6+9=26=2*6=12
04/07/69, 0+4+0+7+6+9=26=2*6=12
04/16/69, 0+4+1+6+6+9=26=2*6=12
04/25/69, 0+4+2+5+6+9=26=2*6=12
05/06/69, 0+5+0+6+6+9=26=2*6=12
05/15/69, 0+5+1+5+6+9=26=2*6=12
05/24/69, 0+5+2+4+6+9=26=2*6=12
06/05/69, 0+6+0+5+6+9=26=2*6=12
06/14/69, 0+6+1+4+6+9=26=2*6=12
06/23/69, 0+6+2+3+6+9=26=2*6=12
07/04/69, 0+7+0+4+6+9=26=2*6=12
07/13/69, 0+7+1+3+6+9=26=2*6=12
07/22/69, 0+7+2+2+6+9=26=2*6=12
07/31/69, 0+7+3+1+6+9=26=2*6=12
08/03/69, 0+8+0+3+6+9=26=2*6=12
08/12/69, 0+8+1+2+6+9=26=2*6=12
08/21/69, 0+8+2+1+6+9=26=2*6=12
08/29/69, 0+8+2+9+6+9=34=3*4=12
08/30/69, 0+8+3+0+6+9=26=2*6=12
09/02/69, 0+9+0+2+6+9=26=2*6=12
09/11/69, 0+9+1+1+6+9=26=2*6=12
09/19/69, 0+9+1+9+6+9=34=3*4=12
09/20/69, 0+9+2+0+6+9=26=2*6=12
09/28/69, 0+9+2+8+6+9=34=3*4=12
10/19/69, 1+0+1+9+6+9=26=2*6=12
10/28/69, 1+0+2+8+6+9=26=2*6=12
11/09/69, 1+1+0+9+6+9=26=2*6=12
11/18/69, 1+1+1+8+6+9=26=2*6=12
11/27/69, 1+1+2+7+6+9=26=2*6=12
12/08/69, 1+2+0+8+6+9=26=2*6=12
12/17/69, 1+2+1+7+6+9=26=2*6=12
12/26/69, 1+2+2+6+6+9=26=2*6=12

And 18:

01/03/68, 0+1+0+3+6+8=18
01/12/68, 0+1+1+2+6+8=18
01/21/68, 0+1+2+1+6+8=18
01/30/68, 0+1+3+0+6+8=18
02/02/68, 0+2+0+2+6+8=18
02/11/68, 0+2+1+1+6+8=18
02/20/68, 0+2+2+0+6+8=18
03/01/68, 0+3+0+1+6+8=18
03/10/68, 0+3+1+0+6+8=18
04/29/68, 0+4+2+9+6+8=29=2*9=18
05/19/68, 0+5+1+9+6+8=29=2*9=18
05/28/68, 0+5+2+8+6+8=29=2*9=18
06/09/68, 0+6+0+9+6+8=29=2*9=18
06/18/68, 0+6+1+8+6+8=29=2*9=18
06/27/68, 0+6+2+7+6+8=29=2*9=18
07/08/68, 0+7+0+8+6+8=29=2*9=18
07/17/68, 0+7+1+7+6+8=29=2*9=18
07/26/68, 0+7+2+6+6+8=29=2*9=18
08/07/68, 0+8+0+7+6+8=29=2*9=18
08/16/68, 0+8+1+6+6+8=29=2*9=18
08/25/68, 0+8+2+5+6+8=29=2*9=18
09/06/68, 0+9+0+6+6+8=29=2*9=18
09/15/68, 0+9+1+5+6+8=29=2*9=18
09/24/68, 0+9+2+4+6+8=29=2*9=18
10/03/68, 1+0+0+3+6+8=18
10/12/68, 1+0+1+2+6+8=18
10/21/68, 1+0+2+1+6+8=18
10/30/68, 1+0+3+0+6+8=18
11/02/68, 1+1+0+2+6+8=18
11/11/68, 1+1+1+1+6+8=18
11/20/68, 1+1+2+0+6+8=18
12/01/68, 1+2+0+1+6+8=18
12/10/68, 1+2+1+0+6+8=18
01/02/69, 0+1+0+2+6+9=18
01/11/69, 0+1+1+1+6+9=18
01/20/69, 0+1+2+0+6+9=18
02/01/69, 0+2+0+1+6+9=18
02/10/69, 0+2+1+0+6+9=18
03/29/69, 0+3+2+9+6+9=29=2*9=18
04/19/69, 0+4+1+9+6+9=29=2*9=18
04/28/69, 0+4+2+8+6+9=29=2*9=18
05/09/69, 0+5+0+9+6+9=29=2*9=18
05/18/69, 0+5+1+8+6+9=29=2*9=18
05/27/69, 0+5+2+7+6+9=29=2*9=18
06/08/69, 0+6+0+8+6+9=29=2*9=18
06/17/69, 0+6+1+7+6+9=29=2*9=18
06/26/69, 0+6+2+6+6+9=29=2*9=18
07/07/69, 0+7+0+7+6+9=29=2*9=18
07/16/69, 0+7+1+6+6+9=29=2*9=18
07/25/69, 0+7+2+5+6+9=29=2*9=18
08/06/69, 0+8+0+6+6+9=29=2*9=18
08/15/69, 0+8+1+5+6+9=29=2*9=18
08/24/69, 0+8+2+4+6+9=29=2*9=18
09/05/69, 0+9+0+5+6+9=29=2*9=18
09/14/69, 0+9+1+4+6+9=29=2*9=18
09/23/69, 0+9+2+3+6+9=29=2*9=18
10/02/69, 1+0+0+2+6+9=18
10/11/69, 1+0+1+1+6+9=18
10/20/69, 1+0+2+0+6+9=18
11/01/69, 1+1+0+1+6+9=18
11/10/69, 1+1+1+0+6+9=18
12/29/69, 1+2+2+9+6+9=29=2*9=18

And 19:

01/04/68, 0+1+0+4+6+8=19
01/13/68, 0+1+1+3+6+8=19
01/22/68, 0+1+2+2+6+8=19
01/31/68, 0+1+3+1+6+8=19
02/03/68, 0+2+0+3+6+8=19
02/12/68, 0+2+1+2+6+8=19
02/21/68, 0+2+2+1+6+8=19
03/02/68, 0+3+0+2+6+8=19
03/11/68, 0+3+1+1+6+8=19
03/20/68, 0+3+2+0+6+8=19
04/01/68, 0+4+0+1+6+8=19
04/10/68, 0+4+1+0+6+8=19
10/04/68, 1+0+0+4+6+8=19
10/13/68, 1+0+1+3+6+8=19
10/22/68, 1+0+2+2+6+8=19
10/31/68, 1+0+3+1+6+8=19
11/03/68, 1+1+0+3+6+8=19
11/12/68, 1+1+1+2+6+8=19
11/21/68, 1+1+2+1+6+8=19
11/30/68, 1+1+3+0+6+8=19
12/02/68, 1+2+0+2+6+8=19
12/11/68, 1+2+1+1+6+8=19
12/20/68, 1+2+2+0+6+8=19
01/03/69, 0+1+0+3+6+9=19
01/12/69, 0+1+1+2+6+9=19
01/21/69, 0+1+2+1+6+9=19
01/30/69, 0+1+3+0+6+9=19
02/02/69, 0+2+0+2+6+9=19
02/11/69, 0+2+1+1+6+9=19
02/20/69, 0+2+2+0+6+9=19
03/01/69, 0+3+0+1+6+9=19
03/10/69, 0+3+1+0+6+9=19
10/03/69, 1+0+0+3+6+9=19
10/12/69, 1+0+1+2+6+9=19
10/21/69, 1+0+2+1+6+9=19
10/30/69, 1+0+3+0+6+9=19
11/02/69, 1+1+0+2+6+9=19
11/11/69, 1+1+1+1+6+9=19
11/20/69, 1+1+2+0+6+9=19
12/01/69, 1+2+0+1+6+9=19
12/10/69, 1+2+1+0+6+9=19

And 33:

08/29/68, 0+8+2+9+6+8=33
09/19/68, 0+9+1+9+6+8=33
09/28/68, 0+9+2+8+6+8=33
07/29/69, 0+7+2+9+6+9=33
08/19/69, 0+8+1+9+6+9=33
08/28/69, 0+8+2+8+6+9=33
09/09/69, 0+9+0+9+6+9=33
09/18/69, 0+9+1+8+6+9=33
09/27/69, 0+9+2+7+6+9=33

There are 1,647,216 different ways to select four of those, resulting in ALA’s date of birth. You have identified only one of them. But for some reason, we are expected to ignore the fact that so many of them arise from chance.

You say I haven’t used math and logic in my arguments, yet they are clearly present. More confirmation bias!

You only dates showed that total values​​, which of course come to the same result, but not that on the dates I used are the dates of the crimes committed, ie the context of the case. as in the case of EBEORIE …. you left only the multiplication, ignoring that it is a code that was encrypted the way a crazy set, skipping stages and leaving straight for numerous combinations that would reach the same result before reaching it .

  You do not use the premise in his reasoning. You ignore the context in your reasoning.

Again, bring to the method that I found, and the data collected in the crimes, data indicate another suspect.
Do the same with the driver’s license of another suspect also appear.
  Thus, perhaps, convince me

I liked the programs and things that you create.
  You have your theories?!

And please, do not take it all seriously. To me it’s just a hobby.

thank you

But you see, you are setting up the rules to favor your result.

For example, in your list of four dates, you are adding the digits for four of the dates. But one of the dates adds up to 26. So, to force it to fit, you multiply 2 * 6 to get 12. But why couldn’t you just add 2 and 6 to get 8, resulting in the date 8/18/1933? You also chose to force 18 to remain unchanged, instead of multiplying 1 and 8 to get 8, resulting in the date 12/8/1933, or 8/8/1933.

Or what if we added digits after including the entire four-digit year?

1+9+6+9+0+7+0+4=36, 3+6=9
1+9+6+9+1+0+1+1=28, 2+8=10
1+9+6+8+1+2+2+0=29, 2+9=11
1+9+6+9+0+9+2+7=43, 4+3=7

That lets us work with years 1928, 1929, 1936, and 1943. And it gives us the numbers 7, 9, 10, and 11 to use for months and days, giving us these possible dates:

11/7/28
11/9/28
7/11/28
7/9/28
9/11/28
9/7/28
10/7/29
10/9/29
7/10/29
9/10/29
9/7/29
10/11/36
10/7/36
11/10/36
11/7/36
7/11/36
10/11/43
10/9/43
11/10/43
11/9/43
9/11/43

Or what if we applied your own method of counting the number of times a letter occurs? For example:

0 7 / 0 4 / 6 9    1 0 / 1 1 / 6 9     1 2 / 2 0 / 6 8     0 9 / 2 7 / 6 9
5 2   5 1   4 4    4 5   4 4   4 4     4 3   3 5   4 1     5 4   3 2   4 4

5+2+5+1+4+4=21, 2+1=3
4+5+4+4+4+4=25, 2+5=7
4+3+3+5+4+1=20, 2+0=2
5+4+3+2+4+4=22, 2+2=4

With just those four numbers, we can construct these dates:

4/7/23
7/4/23
3/7/24
7/3/24
3/4/27
4/3/27
4/7/32
7/4/32
2/7/34
7/2/34
2/4/37
4/2/37
3/7/42
7/3/42
2/7/43
7/2/43
2/3/47
3/2/47
3/4/72
4/3/72
2/4/73
4/2/73
2/3/74
3/2/74

Or what if we multiplied instead of added?

5*2*5*1*4*4=800, 8+0+0=8
4*5*4*4*4*4=5120, 5+1+2+0=8
4*3*3*5*4*1=720, 7+2+0=9
5*4*3*2*4*4=1920, 1+9+2=11, 1+1=2

2,9,8,8

With which you can make these dates (among others):

8/9/28
9/8/28
8/8/29

Or what if we took the year and simply subtracted the month and day parts?

69-07-04=58, 5+8=13, 1+3=4
69-10-11=48, 4+8=12, 1+2=3
68-12-20=36, 3+6=9
69-09-27=33, 3+3=6

With those numbers, we can generate many dates:

3/12/33
3/4/33
3/9/33
4/12/33
4/3/33
4/9/33
9/4/33
12/3/33
12/4/33
12/9/33
3/12/36
3/4/36
3/6/36
4/12/36
4/3/36
4/6/36
6/4/36
12/3/36
12/4/36
12/6/36

4/6/48
4/9/48
6/4/48
6/9/48
9/4/48
9/6/48

3/6/58
3/9/58
3/12/58
6/3/58
6/9/58
6/12/58
9/3/58
9/6/58
9/12/58
12/3/58
12/6/58
12/9/58

Do you see that you can invent many different mechanical rules that will generate many different dates? We generated almost a hundred different dates with simple math. Eventually, you will stumble across a rule that generates an interesting date. It is inevitable. Then you can say, "this rule is special", while ignoring all the other possible rules.

Ok, I understand, but sorry, the dates used are those crimes that committed Z, and assumed, am I right??! So I need you to demonstrate mathematical operations that take the date of birth of the other suspects. (This is the context)

And the sequel EBEORIETMETEHHPITI?!! Also would like a demonstration (using the same method) to force another driver’s license from another of the suspects.

The dates on which the crimes were committed, the sequence Ebeo et al … no I invented, they belong to what I have been calling context.

It is easy of course, demonstrate numerous combinations to arrive at the same result. But the rule is that, follow a pattern without forcing.

Also it is clear that, to my knowledge, there are no rules for methods to encrypt or decrypt something. Even more, we should keep in mind that was a crazy man.
 Allen was discarded by the DNA, it convinces me.
Only, I see such coincidences are at least curious

 My blog is just a theory.
Not solved the case!!

Checked their work is very good!!
Do you know more codes than I for sure.
However I ask you to open your mind, you will have some reason?!
With their knowledge and using the key frequency of repetitions, or other aspects of my theory, you or others can come to some solution in 340.
WAKE please!!

Your site is very cool, and is already in my favorites!!

Marcelo

Yes Dave, you need to show us your own forced solution with a suspects name and drivers license renewal date to prove Marclean wrong!

1-It works with programs that generate random values.

 2 – It ignores the context of the crimes, the dates on which they were made of facts. not demonstrated until now, no date of birth of another suspect, which dispose ALA. (Only demonstrated and well numerous dates generated by programs), which however, is not the date of birth of any of the known suspects.

  3 – In EBEORIETEMETHHPITI He ignores the point of departure from which is extracted the values, the method used, it has been demonstrated starting from only one point, which obviously give the same result, and so far, no "forced" or show any relevant information linking any of the suspects., (note that extracts the driver’s license of ALA, and the same code extracts the date of dispatch. theory see full Part 1 briefly on the link http://zodiacode1933.blogspot.co.uk … t-one.html, or below the post)

4 – In the card hallowen also the same, not extracted (or forced) other relevant date, date of birth of another suspect, date of renewal of driver’s license or other suspect anything that connect to them.

5 – So far only demonstrated in a very weak rhetoric, which is called "mutatio controversiae" (Stratagem consisting of "stop the debate on time" when it is threatened to be killed, leaving the debate "or divert it and take it to another issue), besides sophisticate.

6 – You’ll probably use their math programs to generate the next posts, numbers and more numbers that fill the pages numbers and topic, for me and otther who knows a little of the subject is obvious, but for people who do not have time to be discerning about because we have families and other chores, work, play or other things,( with little time to think about this ) or persons without knowledge about what is debated: "Hey this guy must be right"

Likewise , showed nothing that contradicts the theory , which was made only random calculations.
And if they do not show the 2, 3 and 4, one thing is clear, is that it does not have a math program to help it.

Finally, with all this math skill, not calculated the odds of coicidencias like these happen.

I’ve given up asking him to "force" with my same method, which extracts data from EBEORIE … Which point any of the suspects.
Anyway, I know that in the next posts it will come numbers, numbers and more numbers. And Logical arguments, nothing!

Marclean-

Here is a logical argument for you, then. None of us know who the Zodiac is. Finding that answer is why we are all here.

If the case is ever solved, it might possibly turn out the he was one of the known, named suspects. More likely, in my opinion, and that of many others,
it may turn out that Zodiac was some unknown person that none of us have even heard of before.

I understand what you are asking, you are saying "show another suspect who fits using my method." But you are making unfounded assumptions.

First, you are assuming that Zodiac MUST be one of the named suspects, and there is no reason to assume that. He could have been anyone.

Second, you are assuming that the "method" that you present must have been used by the Zodiac, because you managed to come up with numbers that relate to Arthur Leigh Allen that
fit your hypothesis. But there is no valid reason or proof to believe that your method was actually used.

Even if doranchak went to the effort, used your "method" and found the birth dates or driver’s license numbers of Ted Kaczynski, Larry Kane, Richard Gaikowski, Bruce Davis, Rick Marshall,
Joe Blow, Fred Manalli, or anyone else, it still would not prove anything.

The reason for this is because your method itself is flawed. I could make up my own method and my own rules, just as you did, and I could force anything I wanted in there.

Those of us who have been around this case have seen, time and time again, someone come along with a theory that they are totally invested in that no one else really believes, and those
people adopt a "Me Against The World" mentality. You seem like a good guy, don’t be one of those people.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I agree with doranchak, and I think you are wasting your time and effort on this. There just isn’t any meat on that bone.

-glurk

ok,
Got it,
Good argument. Glurk
I’m not saying I’m right, and that solved the case.
Yes anyone could be the Zodiac … that is a fact, however, sorry stubbornness, I just rhetorical stealth.
What are the odds of such coincidences?!
How to create a method that leads to a path, no I created, I thought, and was based on elements of the case. In another post, I stated, there is no rule to encrypt or decrypt something, but once encrypted, can be deciphered, it is fact.
ALA has been ruled out by DNA, which is convincing.
However, what I see is just that people do not want to know anything that leads to a solution.
If one day break 340, and there is the name of ALA or another, nevertheless, there denial. (The reasons are many, people and societies need myths and mysteries, natural human behavior)
"People are strange" but I also like myths …, I’m weird too.
I’m not against the world, I’m just arguing with some people.
In his view’m wrong, in Dave also and probably others. For others can be right.

Thanks for the good guy, I’m, like having friends and thank you for the advice, but I like a good debate, and I have the science that None of that would change our lives, to know who is or was the Zodiac and Jack the Riper, which both burn in hell, that everyone has to agree with me.

I think my last post seemed aggressive with Dave.
Sorry, my English is bad, and semantic changes in languages, causing confusion.
Sorry same

But say!! Convince me I’m wrong

Marcelo

Hey Gluk!!
Even if my theory was right, even if 340 were broken and revealed the name of someone ALA (RIP if it was not murdered or made ​​part of it) or otherwise, without material evidence, I believe that no court would condemn. Good lawyers would use any kind of argument even similar to those presented here
Marcelo

Marclean-

I don’t know if you ever saw it, but back in 2011 a man claimed to have solved the 340 cipher and claimed to have found ALA in it:

http://tewksbury.patch.com/groups/polic … iac-killer

At the time, this claim generated a lot of discussion and argument. Here is a good article about it:

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/blog/t … -solution/

In any case, ALA has been dead for a long time. I doubt he has a lawyer working for him now.

-glurk

Thanks for the tip

very cool

I knew something about

Not know the counter arguments made ​​by breaking code Starliper also not quite understand how he did it (my bad english prevents), used cipher combined with cesar vallejo ZIP code I think a plausible way, probably. Only it was not clear to me whether the code breaking was observed by professionals working in intelligence agencies, and that they have discarded.

If he broke the code in the wrong way, forcing a result the mystery remains, otherwise if it broke in the right way the mystery grows even more …

  I watched the whole controversy was, in fact, the DNA or fingerprints dismiss ALA. Starliper tried to argue that other Zodiac asked to lick stamps, but why??! In 1969 DNA testing did not exist or was just in theory …, ALA can only be connected to the crime, even if the figure is or was broken so correct if material evidence arises, if such evidence exists, do not know.
If ALA were alive, even with codes with his name, or driver’s license, or other information, no material evidence such as knives, revolvers, ammunition, or other daily things, it would hardly be arrested.
Ie, anything worth any breaking ciphers, codes …

  If another person or other helped the zodiac in their crimes, it would be almost worthy of movies or series like a red john from Mentalist, something very strange and almost impossible to happen, although this is a strange world …
I got a job with the map of Z that does not complete, but that led to the particular place in the region, and I’m out of time now, all I have presented here did in 2002 (before the DNA) and the epoch was unemployed, then started working I married and had children left side. Who knows not think something that will Zodiac buried a box with surprises for us … lol

Marcelo