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History Channel "Hunt for the Zodiac" Season 2???

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Zresearch
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I don’t have this magazine, so pardon my ignorance in regards to that element of the conversation, but I thought that I had read somewhere that zodiac had a primarily Welsh genetic profile, am I incorrect?
I am not even sure where I read that, so it’s entirely possible that in am mistaken completely on the matter.

Is there a good source of information online relating to the zodiac DNA profile(s) and work that as been, or will be done, with it?

Does the magazine mention continuing DNA work on a possible second season of the history channel series?

 
Posted : January 17, 2018 9:14 pm
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If was San Francisco officer Donald Fouke who suggested Zodiac appeared to look of Welsh ancestry. For what that is worth…lol.

Nothing else has been done genetically and we don’t know if it’s in the works. One can hope.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : January 18, 2018 12:57 am
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If was San Francisco officer Donald Fouke who suggested Zodiac appeared to look of Welsh ancestry. For what that is worth…lol.

Nothing else has been done genetically and we don’t know if it’s in the works. One can hope.

Did this cop have a history of identifying people of Welsh ancestry or something? Did he ever elaborate as to why?

This tidbit that he gave has always seemed so oddly specific.

 
Posted : January 18, 2018 1:03 am
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I can only guess it was Zodiac’s physical appearance. We know not all Welsh people look the same, but as a stereotype in Fouke’s mind, Welsh must have meant a stocky guy with red-ish hair.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : January 18, 2018 1:13 am
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He said that Z sort of reminded him of his wife’s father who was quite stocky and happened to be Welsh. Not sure we can put much stock in to that though really. It’s like me driving past a small guy who had a moustache and stating that he might be Austrian as he made me think of Hitler.

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Posted : January 18, 2018 3:13 am
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If was San Francisco officer Donald Fouke who suggested Zodiac appeared to look of Welsh ancestry. For what that is worth…lol.

Nothing else has been done genetically and we don’t know if it’s in the works. One can hope.

Thank you for clearing that up.

 
Posted : January 18, 2018 6:04 pm
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Some Welsh men, I’ve noticed, appear to have rather heavy eyelids so maybe that is also something that Fouke noted. The sketch definitely has a lot of eyelid going on.

 
Posted : January 19, 2018 9:45 pm
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You end up exhausting all your reasonable leads then you start listening to the outlandish…

…One of my friends thinks that Paul stine was involved in the zodiac murders, her theory is that zodiac was a group of individuals, they were all stocky, around 6 foot tall, with glasses and crew cut, so the police descriptions would all sound similar, she thinks stine was going to talk so he was killed…

I think its nonsense.

I mean, stine does look like zodiac is described, and he resembles the sketch, but then again, all the male victims of zodiac look similar to how zodiac is depicted in the sketches…

As far as the officers, I think that they did speak with zodiac, and are not willingly to admit their mistake of letting him get away.

…I always thought the Welsh thing had to do with DNA. Bummer. Looking Welsh is not a lead at all. I mean, an officer saying "he looked Welsh" means very little, what does that even mean? What exact features would make one look "Welsh"?

 
Posted : January 20, 2018 8:18 pm
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…I always thought the Welsh thing had to do with DNA. Bummer. Looking Welsh is not a lead at all. I mean, an officer saying "he looked Welsh" means very little, what does that even mean? What exact features would make one look "Welsh"?

As stated earlier Fouke probably did just pull the Welsh comparison because Zodiac resembled Fouke’s wife’s father who was Welsh. Would be nice to see a picture of the man, actually!

 
Posted : January 20, 2018 10:24 pm
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Did they ever use the DNA profiles to attempt to determine the physical appearance of zodiac? Correct me of I’m wrong, but can you not make a vague determination of a person’s physical appearance using only their DNA profile? I think I remember the show even mentioning this, but can not recall ever seeing it… maybe I should re-watch all the episodes, but for some reason I think they left a lot of loose ends, and would almost need to do another season… but then again, I could have been distracted or not paying good attention and missed some things.

During the show they made mention to using known DNA to "recreate Zodiac’s face." Nothing ever came from it though. These are questions the families and investigators need to know. I feel the show was a win because it brings attention to the case and they have the money to invest

In the book/magazine the history channel has out on the news stands they do a DNA profile to come up with the sort of information you mentioned. And they do show a picture of what they believe Zodiac would have looked like.

I got the magazine as an early birthday present, but have not looked at it yet. Might have to do that here soon.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : January 22, 2018 3:54 pm
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For the record, I sent the History channel a lengthy email about season 2 and asked them to look into Fred Manalli. I would love for them to get in touch with Manalli’s sister about doing a DNA sample before it’s too late. She has offered to do so in the past and is probably getting up there in age. I think that if they tested her DNA that there is a good chance it would match what they pulled off of the stamp. I also asked them to take a look at Randall Clemons’ dot theory because I strongly believe that his overlay is brilliant and probably correct, or at least partially correct.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : January 22, 2018 3:57 pm
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Did they ever use the DNA profiles to attempt to determine the physical appearance of zodiac? Correct me of I’m wrong, but can you not make a vague determination of a person’s physical appearance using only their DNA profile? I think I remember the show even mentioning this, but can not recall ever seeing it… maybe I should re-watch all the episodes, but for some reason I think they left a lot of loose ends, and would almost need to do another season… but then again, I could have been distracted or not paying good attention and missed some things.

During the show they made mention to using known DNA to "recreate Zodiac’s face." Nothing ever came from it though. These are questions the families and investigators need to know. I feel the show was a win because it brings attention to the case and they have the money to invest

In the book/magazine the history channel has out on the news stands they do a DNA profile to come up with the sort of information you mentioned. And they do show a picture of what they believe Zodiac would have looked like.

Is there any way someone could post the photo of how the magazine depicts zodiac based on DNA?

 
Posted : January 24, 2018 6:25 pm
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That is NOT Zodiac in the magazine.

Refer to the previous page.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : January 24, 2018 9:40 pm
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That is NOT Zodiac in the magazine.

Refer to the previous page.

Thank you for clearing that up.

I honestly hope they do a second season, I think there is a good deal they could do as far as DNA work, I also think they left way too many loose ends to stop at one season. Realistically they could produce seasons of the show until the case is solved, and I am sure that the show was popular enough to give the network incentive to continue.

I think Don Cheney should have been seriously investigated.

I wish that samples of Cheney’s DNA had been taken.

Even George bawart suspected Cheney of being involved with these crimes.

I found a sample of Cheney’s hand writing online, and was astounded at how similar it was to the handwriting of zodiac, I also found it strange that he never used a single letter "k" in his letter.

Don Cheney made many false claims designed to falsely implicate Allen in the Zodiac crimes, and even detective George Bawart, who had previously endorsed Cheney as a credible witness, began to doubt Cheney’s story after he appeared in a documentary and made other strange claims.

By the time I spoke with Don Cheney in 2006, he was claiming that Allen had taken him to a Zodiac crime scene, confessed that he was hired as a contract killer by the husband of one Zodiac victim, had known another victim, and much more. Cheney’s behavior proved, beyond any doubt, that he was creating his stories in order to falsely accuse Allen, perhaps for the alleged molestation attempt or for reasons unknown. Even George Bawart changed his opinion and stated publically that he now questioned Cheney’s honesty and even wondered if he might have been somehow involved in the Zodiac crimes. My own experiences which Cheney left me with no other choice than to conclude that he was a very dishonest man who was willing to do and say anything to get attention and attack his former friend. Cheney died in 2009
http://zodiackillerfacts.com/zodiac-the … d-suspect/

 
Posted : January 25, 2018 6:38 pm
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I think Don Cheney should have been seriously investigated.

I wish that samples of Cheney’s DNA had been taken.

He was, and the SFPD did check his DNA.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : January 25, 2018 10:55 pm
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