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(@dont_lick_it)
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She feared him for a reason, everyone who met him felt he was creepy, he followed her everywhere like he has me and her sister Pam. The man who killed Darlene is the same man who stalked her sister Pam and myself. He is a suspect in the highway 4 murders during the 80s and 90s. He has been IDd by a few who got away from him. The problem is we don’t know his last name? So the police have their hands tied until we can find out his real name. He just happens to be a serial killer!

Are you a poster on the Reddit site?

No, I dont post on Reddit.

So why police are not taking it seriously? They should even if he is not the zodiac.
YOU have to give his name to police? This is a joke? Their responisibility is investigate. You dont have to do anything. If someone hurts me , steals from me, abuses me I dont have to give police any names. Thats their job.
I know a woman who was stalked, she didnt know him, they found him , the sentence : a restraining order against her 500m, If she saw him, she had right to call police.
Your guy shoots you, uses stolen car plates and police is waiting for his name,because you have to find it ?lol
I read once you were sure that he, your stalker and zodiac was LArry Kane , but he died in 2010 and you decided that person must be someone else then ..so for 30/40 years you thought that KAne is zodiac and 10 years ago you had to change your mind because the suspect died? I am correct? Doyou have a picture of that Huncho aka Anthony?

 
Posted : January 21, 2021 6:45 pm
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If you read my story at Zkiller.com you would have a better understanding of what has actually taken place. You do post there, I have replied to your posts.
I was given the name Larry Kane by Harvey Hines in" March 1990" and believed what he had told me, that Kane was the man who was stalking me. I had picked out a picture of Kane which looked very much like my stalker. Then I showed that picture to VPD police chief and was told he looked like Larry Kane from Lake Tahoe. So after that for the next 10 yrs, I investigated Kane believing he was the man stalking me. When he died, the stalking continued. It became obvious that my stalker could not have been who Harvey and VPD had told me. (That is not the same as me "changing my mind")

And you are very wrong about the police being able to find who my stalker is without his name. If that were true, he would have been caught long ago. Each time that they came to my home when I called 911 because the man was in my back yard, he would leave before the police arrived. One time an officer passed the suspect speeding away from my home. He asked me was the man driving a blue and white SUV, I said yes. He apologized to me and said he saw him speeding down my street, but he couldn’t go after him, because he was called as a backup, and that meant he had to respond immediately! So there were times they came close to catching him. I think the guy had a police scanner because each time I would call 911, he would leave before the police would arrive. He apparently was a hell of a lot smarter than your friend’s stalker! My local police believe me and are doing the best they can to try and find who he is. They have his picture and are on the lookout. Meanwhile, I keep my gun next to me 24/7!

Had you read the thread at Zkiller.com "The Sandy Betts story", you would have seen Honcho’s picture, as well as the suspect’s handwriting of which I have been told, is a match to Zodiac! His picture and other evidence were on my thread here, but Photoshop removed all pictures.

 
Posted : January 21, 2021 8:14 pm
Marclean
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Hi :)
I am not a specialist in this (graphotechnics), but the calligraphy of the letters of Z and the guy who did your astrological analysis is huge.
The slope of the letter "K" and "ing" (speaKING zodiac and worKING of the letter)
I’ll read more about it.

Marcelo

https://zodiacode1933.blogspot.com/

 
Posted : January 22, 2021 1:21 am
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If you read my story at Zkiller.com you would have a better understanding of what has actually taken place. You do post there, I have replied to your posts.
I was given the name Larry Kane by Harvey Hines in" March 1990" and believed what he had told me, that Kane was the man who was stalking me. I had picked out a picture of Kane which looked very much like my stalker. Then I showed that picture to VPD police chief and was told he looked like Larry Kane from Lake Tahoe. So after that for the next 10 yrs, I investigated Kane believing he was the man stalking me. When he died, the stalking continued. It became obvious that my stalker could not have been who Harvey and VPD had told me. (That is not the same as me "changing my mind")

And you are very wrong about the police being able to find who my stalker is without his name. If that were true, he would have been caught long ago. Each time that they came to my home when I called 911 because the man was in my back yard, he would leave before the police arrived. One time an officer passed the suspect speeding away from my home. He asked me was the man driving a blue and white SUV, I said yes. He apologized to me and said he saw him speeding down my street, but he couldn’t go after him, because he was called as a backup, and that meant he had to respond immediately! So there were times they came close to catching him. I think the guy had a police scanner because each time I would call 911, he would leave before the police would arrive. He apparently was a hell of a lot smarter than your friend’s stalker! My local police believe me and are doing the best they can to try and find who he is. They have his picture and are on the lookout. Meanwhile, I keep my gun next to me 24/7!

Had you read the thread at Zkiller.com "The Sandy Betts story", you would have seen Honcho’s picture, as well as the suspect’s handwriting of which I have been told, is a match to Zodiac! His picture and other evidence were on my thread here, but Photoshop removed all pictures.

hmmm.but you knew your ex suspect name, Larry Kane and they did nothing too.

And not my friends suspect was less smarter, the police was smart

 
Posted : January 22, 2021 7:32 pm
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Hi :)
I am not a specialist in this (graphotechnics), but the calligraphy of the letters of Z and the guy who did your astrological analysis is huge.
The slope of the letter "K" and "ing" (speaKING zodiac and worKING of the letter)
I’ll read more about it.

Marcelo

Thank you for noticing! The other letter that starts out with "Robert Gray Smith" cartoonist, was given to three different handwriting experts, one said it was too much like Zodiac’s writing to be from him, the other two said it was a match! The Hi Pookie letter was the last one left for me, he draws himself next to two of his victims. Someone on this site or Tom’s mentioned the wording " I just want" is something common in other Zodiac letters. He disguised his writing a bit in the last letter.
I know these are the Zodiac’s writings and that my suspect is Zodiac, I just need one good dedicated detective to check everything I have and the DNA left for me from the Lake Berryessa crime scene that he "planted" in my car on Sept. 28th or 29th 1969.
I would like to know what you think of the other letters?

 
Posted : January 23, 2021 7:44 am
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Here is a link for those of you who believe the police would have done something for me in my stalking case. This proves that they don’t always do what they should to solve cases much more important than mine. (Like in the Lisa Norrell murder case)

https://antiochherald.com/2019/03/02ah02lte/

 
Posted : January 23, 2021 8:33 pm
Russ Thompson
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IMO, ‘The hood’ was a very personal expression of the offender’s fantasy "alter ego". The offender fancied himself "KoKo" the executioner who ticks people off his "little list" in the Mikado. That clearly was part of the offender’s pathological fantasies. The hood was him becoming "KoKo", a.k.a, "Zodiac" in real life. And acting out his pathological fantasies.
Also…
I think the offender would have delighted to have been recognized as the "Zodiac" from the symbol on his hood… the infamous fiend who wrote to the papers is here! But that did not happen.
If nothing else, the hood would have inspired fear in the victims… a masked man approaching and pointing a gun.

That was too much!

 
Posted : February 15, 2021 1:27 am
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IMO, ‘The hood’ was a very personal expression of the offender’s fantasy "alter ego". The offender fancied himself "KoKo" the executioner who ticks people off his "little list" in the Mikado. That clearly was part of the offender’s pathological fantasies. The hood was him becoming "KoKo", a.k.a, "Zodiac" in real life. And acting out his pathological fantasies.

That would be a great theory if KoKo was a villain, or even a proper executioner. The Mikado is a campy satirical comedy and the Zodiac demonstrated that he was fully aware of this. Zodiac regularly cracked jokes and poked fun throughout his letters, he also described the Exorcist as a "saterical comidy" demonstrating full awareness of the concept. It would be odd for a serial killer to model himself after the bumbling and ultimately kind hearted KoKo who’s plight was caused partly by his being unable to bring himself to actually execute anyone. There is nothing scary about KoKo, unless you’re homophobic. :D

 
Posted : February 15, 2021 2:00 am
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IMO, ‘The hood’ was a very personal expression of the offender’s fantasy "alter ego". The offender fancied himself "KoKo" the executioner who ticks people off his "little list" in the Mikado. That clearly was part of the offender’s pathological fantasies. The hood was him becoming "KoKo", a.k.a, "Zodiac" in real life. And acting out his pathological fantasies.

That would be a great theory if KoKo was a villain, or even a proper executioner. The Mikado is a campy satirical comedy and the Zodiac demonstrated that he was fully aware of this.

You beat me to it.

 
Posted : February 15, 2021 3:17 am
jacob
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What if he thought of himself as a KoKo who was capable of killing? Sort of like an evil clown.

 
Posted : February 15, 2021 3:30 am
Russ Thompson
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There is nothing scary about KoKo

Correct. Obviously it is doubtful that the comic opera itself inspired the offender’s pathological rampage.
But the comparison of the empowered, appointed executioner using a kill list was quite valid to the offender, or else why would the offender bother misquoting it in his missives? KoKo clearly was a favorite character of his. Worth quoting. A character who thinks death is a funny joke….

That was too much!

 
Posted : February 16, 2021 11:40 pm
Chaucer
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For me, I have always seen Zodiac as a troll, a prankster, a joker who saw murder and his manhunt by the police as a "fun game". He delighted in trolling the papers and police with weird codes, silly jokes, and outrageous statements. I believe he found the entire thing amusing.

The fact that he used a comedic opera about a silly executioner putting one over on everyone is telling.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : February 17, 2021 12:34 am
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KoKo clearly was a favorite character of his. Worth quoting.

He got the quotes wrong.

The Mikado was a staple of pop culture and had been for decades. The "little list" song was used in adverts to sell laundry soap. Likely Zodiac had heard that song numerous times and thought it would be humorous to attempt to repeat the lyrics, hence all of the mistakes.

 
Posted : February 17, 2021 1:46 am
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Whilst the Mikado was more popular back then and is still popular today, and whilst it may have qualified as being called "pop culture" upon it’s initial run, calling it part of American pop culture in the 1960’s is a stretch.

Yes, musicals were bigger then, but this was an oldie, a popular oldie, but an oldie all the same. If you liked musicals you’d know it, but that doesn’t make it mainstream to point of being ubiquitous. It’s popular enough that you could use it in advertising, but that doesn’t make it ubiquitous either.

The fact that the Zodiac mentions it several times and demonstrates a satirical sense of humor elsewhere, would seem to indicate that he genuinely enjoyed the absurdist humor and dark satire. Consider his hyperbolic and absurdist list of torture techniques, it’s similar in humor to Gilbert and Sullivan, also the playful greeting cards and Buttons letter.

The bottom line is, he probably liked Gilbert and Sullivan, so is the incredulity really justified?

 
Posted : February 17, 2021 2:03 am
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Whilst the Mikado was more popular back then and is still popular today, and whilst it may have qualified as being called "pop culture" upon it’s initial run, calling it part of American pop culture in the 1960’s is a stretch.

The 1960s saw a Mikado television special (Groucho Marx) as well as a number of popular albums, touring musicals, plays, you name it

 
Posted : February 17, 2021 3:53 am
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