This message, to me, is one of the strangest "coincidences" I have seen.

The “imperial wizard” comment is bizarre. Is it a clan reference? I don’t know.

But I would think the most likely way to have the opportunity to join the Klan would first to be white, second to get a conviction and end up in prison. That doesn’t really narrow it down, but…

I think you are thinking of the Aryan Brotherhood. They are the prison gang. The KKK doesn’t really get along with Neo Nazis because the Nazis were German and the Klan hates non Americans, even white ones. Yeah, it doesn’t make a lot of sense, but that’s racist "logic" for you.

Also the Klan hates Catholics, which most members of the AB are.

It’s interesting that the crosshair symbol is also a celtic cross symbol used by Neo-Nazis. I’m not really sure if the KKK uses it. Strange how Z dose not come across as racist. I mean there’s no racist rantings in his writings, and he never victimized anyone other than white people. Though Stine was likely Jewish. Also, Manalli was of Italian descent, which I’m sure is not white enough for the klan.

As for the R. A. at the end, I’m doubtful anyone would use their actual initials. My guess it’s a name used within the group of what looks like 4 people.

As for the R. A. at the end, I’m doubtful anyone would use their actual initials. My guess it’s a name used within the group of what looks like 4 people.

That’s what we wonder about the RH on the Bates desktop too

Here’s the link to the thread I started with Manalli’s accident and death certificate.

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Ophion I do have an "office" which is full of stuffed filing cabinets, binders and books mostly relating to murders, solved and unsolved!

I knew it lol. I bet you could start an entire crime library.

As for the R. A. at the end, I’m doubtful anyone would use their actual initials. My guess it’s a name used within the group of what looks like 4 people.

That’s what we wonder about the RH on the Bates desktop too

Funny you mentioned the RH. Last night I got to thinking… What if RA and RH are the same person? H is the last name and A is the middle name and the person went by his entire name (Robert Allen Hill for example). I don’t think the person would be comfortable putting RH in the personal ad since the desktop poem had been brought to light.

Is it possible to find a list of lawyers from 1976 in that area?

In the Manalli section, Seagull posted about a Guy named Richard Anderson (R.A. initials)that killed himself, was a Suspect in the Santa Rosa crimes…..HMM

In the Manalli section, Seagull posted about a Guy named Richard Anderson (R.A. initials)that killed himself, was a Suspect in the Santa Rosa crimes…..HMM

Wow, definitely worth researching more on this guy. Interesting, because the name Richard comes up in this case. I think I remember Mike Mageau saying the name when Pam, Darlene’s sister, questioned him with a hidden recorder. Than, of course, there are those other suspects named Richard. Like Ophion pointed out R.A. and RH have the same first initial, R for Richard. If it turns out Richard Anderson’s middle name begins with H, it will really look incriminating.

I still think RA were likely the initials of a alias. It could easily stand for resident advisor. It would make sense in the context of the ad. It’s such a bold thing to use your own initials, but we’ve learned that there’s a lot of boldness in this case, so it’s entirely possible.

Somewhat unrelated, but didn’t Fred teach at Riverside for a while? Think I read that somewhere. I know he taught English Lit at a college in SR. I find his handwriting matches that desk poem probably more closely than any of the other supposed and confirmed Z writings.

Seagull and I looked extensively into Fred’s background, and neither of us could show Fred Manalli in the Riverside area,despite Graysmith’s claim.
As far as this Richard Anderson, his middle name is DALE. Again, Richard Anderson is a very common name.

Yeah, wouldn’t make sense for Richard Anderson to write the poem, especially where it looks so much like Fred’s writing.

It was Graysmith where I heard that.

I don’t want to read too much into The Mikado, but it is interesting that in the play, the Mikado is the imperialist emperor (imperial wizzard) who hires, for lack of a better word, Ko-Ko to be Lord High Executioner. Maybe by alluding to The Mikado —– besides it being a play that would be right up Z’s alley — it’s a sly way to say Z, or the killer, is just one person in a larger picture. It ties in with the executioner’s garb Z wore, and the fact that Z was "singing" Ko-Ko’s part in the mikado letter.

Another interesting point about The Mikado, from what I’ve read about it (I’ve never actually seen the play) the executioner’s job is to behead those guilty of flirting. Besides Paul Stine, all Z’s victims were "guilty" of "flirting" at the time of their murders.

Another interesting point about The Mikado, from what I’ve read about it (I’ve never actually seen the play) the executioner’s job is to behead those guilty of flirting. Besides Paul Stine, all Z’s victims were "guilty" of "flirting" at the time of their murders.

At the end of the day, this, I feel, was the crux of Zodiac’s motivation to murder.

A sexually frustrated and romantically unlucky Zodiac, identifying with the Lord High Executioner, could have found a twisted justification in this identification to murder the young couples who represented what he could not have.

I don’t want to read too much into The Mikado, but it is interesting that in the play, the Mikado is the imperialist emperor (imperial wizzard) who hires, for lack of a better word, Ko-Ko to be Lord High Executioner. Maybe by alluding to The Mikado —– besides it being a play that would be right up Z’s alley — it’s a sly way to say Z, or the killer, is just one person in a larger picture. It ties in with the executioner’s garb Z wore, and the fact that Z was "singing" Ko-Ko’s part in the mikado letter.

Wow, that is exactly what I think of the Zodiac case. I think there was someone "pulling the strings."

Just some web facts on early Aryan Brotherhood…

History of the Aryan Brotherhood
At San Quentin State Prison during the 1950s a renegade motorcycle gang with strong Irish roots formed the Diamond Tooth Gang. The gang’s main purpose was to protect white inmates from being assaulted from other racial groups within the prison. The name, Diamond Tooth, was chosen because many in gang had tiny pieces of glass embedded in their teeth.
In the early 1960s, wanting even more control, the gang soon expanded its recruiting efforts and attracted more white-supremacist and violent prone inmates. As the gang grew in size they changed the name from Diamond Tooth to Blue Bird.
By the late 1960s racial unrest increased throughout the nation and the desegregation within the prisons took place and stronger racial tensions grew within the prison yards.
The Black Guerrilla Family, a gang made up of black-only members, became a real threat to the Blue Birds and the group looked toward other prison white-only gangs to form an alliance which became known as the Aryan Brotherhood.
As gang membership grew and members were let out of prison and re-entered other prisons, it became clear that an organization system was needed. Protection, extortion, narcotics, weapons and murder-for-hire schemes were paying off and the gang wanted to expand its power to other prisons across the country.
Aryan Brotherhood Symbols
• Shamrock clover leaf.
• Initials "AB."
• Swastikas.
• Double lightning bolts.
• The numbers "666."
• HH for "Heil Hitler."
• A Falcon resembling the Sinn Fein, the political wing of the Irish Republican Army, meaning "We Ourselves."
• Known to use Gaelic (old Irish) symbols as a method of coding communications.