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Now Patricia Hautz is being implicated in some fashion? Sorry, this has gone way beyond silly.

 
Posted : January 30, 2015 6:00 pm
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Now Patricia Hautz is being implicated in some fashion? Sorry, this has gone way beyond silly.

The ZFK patrol implied or implicated
her, not Blind Bat.
You read what ZFK in blue font stated?
Beyond their reasonable doubt?
Or through email and ph. confession.

Are we more interested in the Zodiac’s
motive, than what PH said she said through
hearsay?

Zodiac’s motive for killing equals "Human Interested Stories?"
Not the stories about his victims so much,
but more about the press stories about him.
Has anyone claimed a motive as of to date?

In other words, the California Zodiac
murdered people in California so
Human interest stories could be printed
about him!
By the press printing stories about the Zodiac
this confirms it?

By the way, who is speaking in the letters?
It’s not the Zodiac!

Reefer Madness is speaking in
the confession and Hautz letter.

Roy Huggins’ script writer for the fugitive
is speaking in the "I’ll clue you in letter"

Murder!
One hell of a way to have human
interest stories printed about you,
and then CYA by speaking in
someone else’s tongue through letters
to the press and claiming that it
is you who is speaking.

When two people collaborate on
writing a book, who is speaking
in the book,
when there is only one name on the
title page.
This can be tricky, just because
the book says this is the author Zodiac
speaking, does not make it so!

Blind Bat

 
Posted : January 30, 2015 6:42 pm
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i’m game —

who is melvin?
we know really?
he could have been related to melville but wouldn’t that be the button.

have you thought about what he was transmitting?
resistance needs resistors and obviously "z" wasn’t going to detract from that.

if we know melvin spoke about zodiac then we know zodiac is speaking as melvin,
or at least if we let the letters clew us in.

–how’d i do?

 
Posted : January 30, 2015 9:04 pm
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i’m game —

who is melvin?
we know really?
he could have been related to melville but wouldn’t that be the button.

have you thought about what he was transmitting?
resistance needs resistors and obviously "z" wasn’t going to detract from that.

if we know melvin spoke about zodiac then we know zodiac is speaking as melvin,
or at least if we let the letters clew us in.

–how’d i do?

How did Melvin mail himself a letter postmarked
Calif. when he was over seas?
By pigeon?

Blind Bat

 
Posted : January 30, 2015 9:36 pm
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Just because you call someone
the Judas of the family, does not mean
you know their father the leader too does it?

If you call your boss an _ _ _, does it mean you
know their parents?

In both situations, you know the
Judas of the family, and your boss?

Ok, I have decided to show you fine
folks something.
I’m going to rewrite my last question, and plug
a name into it!

Here is the question…
In both situations, you know the
Judas of the family, (Susan Atkins)
and your boss?

Why did I pick a Manson follower out
of the wood pile?
More important, why did Zodiac?
Charlie’s name is in one of the letters?

Melvin did not represent her.

Famous names and name calling!

Melvin…eats blubber
Jack Ruby…you filthy (Jew)
Susan Atkins…the (Judas) of the family
What connection could Zodiac have with
Melvin, Jack and Susan?
Who is this mystery man!

Blind Bat

 
Posted : January 30, 2015 9:45 pm
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Deep thoughts by Jack Handey,.. I mean Blind Bat. Im just having a little fun, I enjoy reading your threads BB.

 
Posted : January 30, 2015 9:54 pm
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Deep thoughts by Jack Handey,.. I mean Blind Bat. Im just having a little fun, I enjoy reading your threads BB.

Thank you!
Jack is to deep for me. :)

Blind Bat

 
Posted : January 30, 2015 10:24 pm
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Now Patricia Hautz is being implicated in some fashion? Sorry, this has gone way beyond silly.

just read PH’s letter’s…she basically tears up CJB "the boy (seems to imply a younger guy-a fellow student perhaps?) that killed her could be more rewarding"..what compelled her to write that?…basically I think she was tired of reading stories about CJB and wanted any mention of her to go away..did she have some conflict at RCC with CJB?..that letter is way more than 1960’s activism in my opinion..why end "with hope"??…I am not implying anything in regards to PH..but its just weird to me..PH wrote the letter and put herself into Z lore forever..irregardless of PH future wants or wishes by her own hand she placed herself open to discussion..I just question why she seems to not give a damn about CJB and wants stories on the killer..its just makes no logical sense and it seems to imply she does not give a rats ass about the death of CJB..all my take-god speed

 
Posted : January 31, 2015 2:23 am
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Now Patricia Hautz is being implicated in some fashion? Sorry, this has gone way beyond silly.

just read PH’s letter’s…she basically tears up CJB "the boy (seems to imply a younger guy-a fellow student perhaps?) that killed her could be more rewarding"..what compelled her to write that?…basically I think she was tired of reading stories about CJB and wanted any mention of her to go away..did she have some conflict at RCC with CJB?..that letter is way more than 1960’s activism in my opinion..why end "with hope"??…I am not implying anything in regards to PH..but its just weird to me..PH wrote the letter and put herself into Z lore forever..irregardless of PH future wants or wishes by her own hand she placed herself open to discussion..I just question why she seems to not give a damn about CJB and wants stories on the killer..its just makes no logical sense and it seems to imply she does not give a rats ass about the death of CJB..all my take-god speed

Maybe PH had a brother/nephew/father/friend, or something, who previous to the CJB murder, had turned into a killer due to his heavily traumatic childhood etc. and that PH simply wanted society to not only focus on the victims of murder, but also on the murderer and what it is that turn boys into killers, in order to avoid the creation of more killers.

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : January 31, 2015 2:42 am
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Or maybe she cared more than you realize. She is saying what many of us have over the years. We need to look at our children! Pay attention to them and what is going on in their lives.

Yes, it was important to mention Cheri, but WHY NOT a story about the type of person involved in such a crime? Maybe Patricia was into psychology and wanted to try and understand mindset of the person who could do such a thing. We have all done it.

"Rewarding" meaning….less murdered girls!

EDIT: Posted at the same time as TF….my reply was to snooter.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : January 31, 2015 2:43 am
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As pointed out by glurk, Patricia was tracked down and turned out to be a "pretty vocal" student who was in the habit of writing letters to the editor on contemporary issues.

It would seem, then, that she has nothing to do with the Zodiac case. Unless she was masterfully deceiving Butterfield for unknown reasons.

 
Posted : January 31, 2015 3:31 am
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As pointed out by glurk, Patricia was tracked down and turned out to be a "pretty vocal" student who was in the habit of writing letters to the editor on contemporary issues.

It would seem, then, that she has nothing to do with the Zodiac case. Unless she was masterfully deceiving Butterfield for unknown reasons.

Did she sign an affidavit stating she wrote
the (boy who turned killer) letter?
Hearsay won’t hold water in the Judges
drinking glass!
I guess her fingerprints on the PH
letter were invisible too!

Blind Bat

 
Posted : January 31, 2015 4:37 am
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As pointed out by glurk, Patricia was tracked down and turned out to be a "pretty vocal" student who was in the habit of writing letters to the editor on contemporary issues.

It would seem, then, that she has nothing to do with the Zodiac case. Unless she was masterfully deceiving Butterfield for unknown reasons.

Did she sign an affidavit stating she wrote
the (boy who turned killer) letter?

No. But I know she wrote
the letter. She told me
in a dream, you see.

She appear’d as a midget
dressed in red
(a clearer reference to Bates
I never did see) but I knew
it was her because she

quoted

the

Mikado

 
Posted : January 31, 2015 5:05 am
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As pointed out by glurk, Patricia was tracked down and turned out to be a "pretty vocal" student who was in the habit of writing letters to the editor on contemporary issues.

It would seem, then, that she has nothing to do with the Zodiac case. Unless she was masterfully deceiving Butterfield for unknown reasons.

Did she sign an affidavit stating she wrote
the (boy who turned killer) letter?

No. But I know she wrote
the letter. She told me
in a dream, you see.

She appear’d as a midget
dressed in red
(a clearer reference to Bates
I never did see) but I knew
it was her because she

quoted

the

Mikado

:lol:

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : January 31, 2015 5:23 am
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I doubt that Z knew Melvin personally. After all what brought him into the case was someone posing as Z that request Melvin only if Bailey was not available. After that Melvin was drawn into the case and then Z started showing him attention. It is possible that Eric knew Z and was asked to make the call, but again Melvin was second option.

 
Posted : January 31, 2015 5:30 am
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