the problem with astrology is every date or group of dates means something. it’s like the numerology stuff, if you’re selective enough you can make it seem like abraham lincoln was the zodiac.

Thats more of a astrological predictions masootz
I am talking of the asending zodiac sign or star grouping on the eastern sky ( which is known by the date ) with the planets aligning /crossing and the lunar state too
If he …Z followed the zodiac closely and many did back then ,i wonder if there if a common thread to this with the murders

Thats more of a astrological predictions masootz
I am talking of the asending zodiac sign or star grouping on the eastern sky ( which is known by the date ) with the planets aligning /crossing and the lunar state too
If he …Z followed the zodiac closely and many did back then ,i wonder if there if a common thread to this with the murders

right and it sounds like you want to use astrology to predict a pattern. i was just saying you’ll probably find a hundred patterns depending on which variation of astology you subscribe.

What you need to do this Ace, is an Ephemeris which is an almanac that gives the location of all the planets at specific times and dates. You also need the coordinates (longitude and latitude) of the crime scene locations. This exercise requires a lot of math, concentration and attention to detail. I tried to do this at one time but gave up as I found it too difficult with my limited knowledge of the subject.

Google Ephemeris, there are plenty online that go back to 1900. Good Luck!

Didn’t Graysmith look into this?

Gray smith did a lot of this in the yellow book

We all know that Graysmith was not a stickler for accuracy and tended to skew information in favor of his suspect. It’s probably a rabbit hole but having it done again by someone who knows what they are doing might yield different results than what Graysmith published. Although, I do believe that LE consulted astrologers at the time and this is something the astrologers likely would have tried.

Down load the wolframalpha app. It gives area time date moon days etc etc.. Not sure if it will help BOL

thanks for the good info
I didn’t think there were that many combos for the 13 old zodiac signs they all are on the eliptic
if a planet was aligning with the moon on the murder dates that would be interesting .

I think there is a tie in to witchcraft with my story for a number of reasons .
as I have read at their sites it was /is a practice of their beliefs to celebrate on the new and full moon phase then to offer a sacrifice a day or so after

here are the moon phases for the zodiac murders
oct 30 / 1966 1 day after new moon
Dec 20 1968 1 day after full moon
july 4 1969 5 days after full moon this day being a day to celebrate may have been chosen
sept 27 1969 1 day after full moon
Oct 11 1969 1 day after new moon

thanks for the good info
I didn’t think there were that many combos for the 13 old zodiac signs they all are on the eliptic
if a planet was aligning with the moon on the murder dates that would be interesting .

I think there is a tie in to witchcraft with my story for a number of reasons .
as I have read at their sites it was /is a practice of their beliefs to celebrate on the new and full moon phase then to offer a sacrifice a day or so after

here are the moon phases for the zodiac murders
oct 30 / 1966 1 day after new moon
Dec 20 1968 1 day after full moon
july 4 1969 5 days after full moon this day being a day to celebrate may have been chosen
sept 27 1969 1 day after full moon
Oct 11 1969 1 day after new moon

no offense, but you’re doing exactly what i was posting about upthread. he didn’t murder anyone on a full moon or new moon so you say "ok then we’ll say he did it one day after because a web site said that make sense" then you get to the one that doesn’t even fit the shifting hypothesis and find a reason that even it makes sense. you can find a pattern if you’re looking for a pattern, what these types of searches never seem to show is the ability to come up with something linear that fits with what we know, e.g. – ‘zodiac only murdered on the weekend’.

thanks for the good info
I didn’t think there were that many combos for the 13 old zodiac signs they all are on the eliptic
if a planet was aligning with the moon on the murder dates that would be interesting .

I think there is a tie in to witchcraft with my story for a number of reasons .
as I have read at their sites it was /is a practice of their beliefs to celebrate on the new and full moon phase then to offer a sacrifice a day or so after

here are the moon phases for the zodiac murders
oct 30 / 1966 1 day after new moon
Dec 20 1968 1 day after full moon
july 4 1969 5 days after full moon this day being a day to celebrate may have been chosen
sept 27 1969 1 day after full moon
Oct 11 1969 1 day after new moon

no offense, but you’re doing exactly what i was posting about upthread. he didn’t murder anyone on a full moon or new moon so you say "ok then we’ll say he did it one day after because a web site said that make sense" then you get to the one that doesn’t even fit the shifting hypothesis and find a reason that even it makes sense. you can find a pattern if you’re looking for a pattern, what these types of searches never seem to show is the ability to come up with something linear that fits with what we know, e.g. – ‘zodiac only murdered on the weekend’.

what a bunch of gobble d gook ( your post Masootz)
You were talking of astrological predictions , your silly refrence to abe L
I am talking the astronomy of astrology , (yes I should have used those words ,but didn’t think I had to) , related to the classic zodiac charts
yes I am not into witchcraft ,so I used a credible site that explains in detail the beliefs of that group

thanks for the good info
I didn’t think there were that many combos for the 13 old zodiac signs they all are on the eliptic
if a planet was aligning with the moon on the murder dates that would be interesting .

I think there is a tie in to witchcraft with my story for a number of reasons .
as I have read at their sites it was /is a practice of their beliefs to celebrate on the new and full moon phase then to offer a sacrifice a day or so after

here are the moon phases for the zodiac murders
oct 30 / 1966 1 day after new moon
Dec 20 1968 1 day after full moon
july 4 1969 5 days after full moon this day being a day to celebrate may have been chosen
sept 27 1969 1 day after full moon
Oct 11 1969 1 day after new moon

no offense, but you’re doing exactly what i was posting about upthread. he didn’t murder anyone on a full moon or new moon so you say "ok then we’ll say he did it one day after because a web site said that make sense" then you get to the one that doesn’t even fit the shifting hypothesis and find a reason that even it makes sense. you can find a pattern if you’re looking for a pattern, what these types of searches never seem to show is the ability to come up with something linear that fits with what we know, e.g. – ‘zodiac only murdered on the weekend’.

what a bunch of gobble d gook ( your post Masootz)
You were talking of astrological predictions , your silly refrence to abe L
I am talking the astronomy of astrology , (yes I should have used those words ,but didn’t think I had to) , related to the classic zodiac charts
yes I am not into witchcraft ,so I used a credible site that explains in detail the beliefs of that group

good luck with your search!

I think it’s possible that Z had something vaguely astrological in mind at some point – but I think “vague” is the key term, and I do not think he chose his victims based on anything “zodiacal” as such. He may have wanted to be associated with something of the sort – hence the moniker. But I can’t see him plotting his course based on constellations or phases of the moon – or anything like that.

Just my opinion, of course.

Anyway, anything compelling in this vein has to be a clear, unmistakable pattern – for my money. It can’t be roughly this or that. If someone can demonstrate that the Z dates correspond exactly to some scheme or cycle or whatever it may be, then I’ll stand up and pay attention – but it has to be exact.