Maybe the g is in the ballpark.

Maybe the g is in the ballpark.

Thanks good catch, and candy cane f. What is throwing me off, Zodiac had really messy writing

I see some matches (low-crossed ‘t’s and the ‘d’s also seem close)

The ‘g’s and ‘f’s vary in the above example. Some are printed, some are cursive. But I also see these sort of variations in Zodiacs’ letters (where he is mainly printing but occasionally slips into looped cursive, particularly on certain letters). The above sample also has this combination of styles.

Sorry but I have always looked a the S’s, Zodiacs are quite unusual. Bottom is larger than the top, which in apparent in the writing you have shown Morf.

i like it a lot, especially compared to the bus bomb letter with the 32 letter code at the bottom. starts of neat and progresses to untidy.
so has this poi been named ever before or is he brand new?…morf

Looks like dozens of other handwriting samples I have seen that look somewhat like the Zodiacs.

The letter "n" in the word student seems to ring a bell, I think there’s a similar letter "n" in
the Ross Sullivan SS application form.

IF we ever saw Zodiac’s handwriting, we probably would know.

"Whom will remember" sounds like a Zodiac letter.

Looks like dozens of other handwriting samples I have seen that look somewhat like the Zodiacs.

Many samples look similar, particularly if the handwriting style is ‘simple’ since non-complex handwriting provides fewer distinguishing points of comparison. Zodiac went to some effort to disguise his handwriting (employing hand printing, alternating slant/’backhand’, using less accurate felt pens, overwriting, etc) to further reduce these points of similarity.

Looks like dozens of other handwriting samples I have seen that look somewhat like the Zodiacs.

Many samples look similar, particularly if the handwriting style is ‘simple’ since non-complex handwriting provides fewer distinguishing points of comparison. Zodiac went to some effort to disguise his handwriting (employing hand printing, alternating slant/’backhand’, using less accurate felt pens, overwriting, etc) to further reduce these points of similarity.

Thank you Graysmith I did not know that.

Thank you Graysmith I did not know that.

Sorry, I don’t understand your point? Have I missed the joke?

Means you are assuming like Graysmith and thinking Zodiac altered his writing and with no proof of it.

Means you are assuming like Graysmith and thinking Zodiac altered his writing and with no proof of it.

My opinion has nothing to do with Graysmith, but I have read a fair number of papers on disguised handwriting. My comment was about the problem of finding distinctions in uncomplex and generic letters. So, thank you for your baseless insinuation that added nothing to the thread, other than serving to derail a meaningful conversation.

However, given that the Zodiac is wanted by the FBI for extortion (he literally threatened to kill people if the demands in his letters weren’t met), don’t you think he’d take the small precaution of hiding his handwriting traits? Especially since he went to such lengths to disguise his MO, by changing locations, victims types, weapon’s and vehicles. Disguised handwriting is commonly associated with blackmailers and extortionists. Using a felt tip with a thicker nib is already an attempt to reduce accuracy, and thereby disguise the writing style.

Disguised handwriting is most commonly used in the following situations:

1. Writing fictitious checks.
2. Endorsing stolen checks.
3. Writing anonymous letters, extortion notes, etc.
4. Submitting handwriting standards.
5. Signing name with the purpose of denying signature later on.

Now Zodiac does write with some more complex letters (such as the looped cursive ‘d’), yet it takes an expert such as Morrill to recognise what is likely disguised and what is natural to the author. Even disguised writing carries with it clues and traits, and there are some elements that are hard to disguise.

We see ‘grotesque’-style disguised handwriting in the "BATES HAD TO DIE LETTERS", for which Zodiac is a strong candidate (whether you think he committed the murders or not)

I mean, c’mon only a moron wouldn’t change his handwriting in some manner (i.e. a moron would have been caught and have gone the gas chamber already). I think my point remains an uncontroversial one.