Ok, what if this wasn’t his name but an advice to e.g. go somewhere, to get further ‘clues’ about his identity?

EBEORIETEMETHHPITI

MEET THE EBEORIHPITI?

MEET THE THREE BOIPII?

or something like that? I know so far this ain’t readable yet, maybe somebody else got a better idea with it?

This one is also a good find, imo:
http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/5 … _pER_l_tu5

I HOPE I MEET THE TRIBE

is actually a valid anagramming solution for it (found by ‘SoReal’).

QT

Hi

”BEFORE I MEET THY/THE PITY"
"BEFORE I MEET THEM I PITY (THEM)."

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/forum/ … f=86&t=744

OR

My Mind-Game:

”BE(F)ORE I MEET THE PI(E) HIT”

‘

Anther thought, and a question.

I thing the Z480 have five Statements, can this be?

I LIKE KILLING PEOPLE
BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH FUN
IT IS MORE FUN THAN KILLING WILD GAME IN THE FORREST
BECAUSE MAN IS THE MOST DANGEROUS ANIMAL OF ALL……………….First Statement
____________________________

TO KILL SOMETHING GIVES ME
THE MOST THRILLING EXPERIENCE
IT IS EVEN BETTER THAN GETTING
YOUR ROCKS OF WITH A GIRL………………….Second Statement
__________________________

THE BEST PART OF IT IS THAT
WHEN I DIE I WILL BE REBORN N PARADICE
AND ALL THE I HAVE KILLED
WILL BECOME MY SLAVES………………………Third Statement
__________________________

I WILL NOT GIVE YOU MY NAME
BECAUSE YOU WILL TRY
TO SLOW DOWN OR STOP
MY COLLECTING OF SLAVES……………………Fourth Statement
__________________________

FOR MY AFTERLIFE ?
????R?ET?M??????T?……………………………..Fifth Statement?

_________________________________________________________________

What about the victims Z says he explained in the Statement three: ” WHEN I DIE … AND ALL THE I HAVE KILLED WILL BECOME MY SLAVES ‘

At the end of the fourth statement belongs, in my opinion, one point.
Because Z writes: ” BECAUSE YOU WILL TRY TO SLOW DOWN OR STOP MY COLLECTING OF SLAVES ‘

Why does he want then this even more informative with ” FOR MY AFTERLIFE ‘stress?
It is clear what meaning with (WHEN I DIE , MY COLLECTING OF SLAVES). Why further explanation on this?

What when Z writes with the last two lines, a fifth statement and combined with a new cipher?

Glurk,
I’ve always wanted to know this about the 408 cipher?
How was it determined that the decipher by the Hardings was correct?

I think there are two ways to think about why the Hardens’ solution is correct:

1) The cipher is 408 symbols long and contains only 54 unique symbols. The Hardens’ solution assigns a single plaintext letter to each symbol. That means the Hardens’ only added 54 pieces of information to extract a message that is 390 letters long. No further manipulation or "degrees of freedom" were required to "expand" the 54 pieces of information into a coherent 390-letter message. Thus, the Hardens could not feasibly insert their own messages into the solution.

2) Let’s assume their solution is not correct. This means there is another coherent message that can be extracted using the same method. In this case, the message the Hardens found was not unique. But no other coherent message has been discovered yet by making different assignments for the 54 symbols, unless you impose a great number of additional manipulations to the decoding process. So there’s no reason to believe the Hardens solution is wrong.

Another way to think about that is: If you encoded a 390-character message, could someone come along and, using only 54 symbol assignments, produce a 390-letter coherent message that was completely different than yours, simply by chance? And it happens to be a treatise about killing people?

The only way that would be possible is if you allowed more manipulations of the cipher text. Or, if you used a key that was as long as the 390-letter message. In that case, you could generate any 390-letter message you wanted.

Note that I am ignoring the last 18 symbols of the cipher. The Hardens might be wrong about that, at least only in the sense that they didn’t extract a coherent message for that piece of the puzzle. I think it’s just filler, since there are so many repeated symbols pulled down from above (see http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=423). It could possibly contain a message, but the cryptogram author would have had to preserve those repetitions somehow during the encoding process, which seems unlikely.

I think it’s likely to be filler too.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it quite common to use filler symbols in just this kind of cipher, i.e. one that uses this kind of encrypting and is fairly long? I don’t think Z was a super sophisticated cipher maker – he probably learned how to do it from a book.

In classical cryptography, filler was often used to make it harder to guess an encrypted message’s true length, or to prevent detection of common phrases that could be used as cribs to crack the ciphers. Zodiac may have used it to make his cryptogram split into 3 equal parts. Interestingly, two 8.5"x11" sheets of paper ruled into half-inch squares contain exactly 17 columns and 44 rows of squares, which are the exact dimensions of the 408 and 340 if they are written together. So perhaps there is some relationship between the 408’s filler and this quality.

Has anyone made a list of names and words that you can come up with from these letters, EBEORIETEMETHHPITI? I think we should do that!

I’ll get it started so add to it if you’d like….. the words in bold are the ones I am personally focusing on.

Common words- I, oh, be, or, the, to, hi, him, hit, hip, hire, me, both, better, pit, pot, pet, bet, bee, beep, time, tip, tie, pie, peer, port, top, tot, tit , toe, tire, hot, hop, home, rip, rib, boo, boom, boot, beer

Not as common words- orbit, hermit, hobit, poet, erie, eerie, otter, pee, bio, bite, rome, robe, tremor, probe, pro, prom, tore, temp, hoot, hooter , hoop, hombre, hemp, temper

Names- Beth, Tim, Peter, Pete, Theo, Tom, Herb, Herbie, Rob

O, I be the hermit poet… that was easy!

The eerie poet would leave the leftovers of t, h, m, b, o, i, i.

Mothibi the eerie poet.

Try this. Set Maximum number of words in each anagram: to 5 or less to begin with and then you can try adjusting the number of letters per word, if ya want to.

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html

I’m sure there’s a thread about this somewhere in which results were posted but I couldn’t find it.

I personally don’t understand why people like to anagram/shift/decipher what is obviously a bunch of meaningless filler characters, but I guess we each make our own fun.

Oh, here, solve this:

FJLJRXNLUQVMXZPJTF

It’s a completely random string of letters, but I guarantee that if you try hard enough, you can find a name in there. Probably even your own Zodiac POI’s name. You can use Morse code,
or binary, or Caesar shifts, or anagrams, or multiple substitutions, or anything at all that you can dream up. There are no limits. The world is your oyster.

-glurk

"I tie the rope" leaves the letters t, h, m, b, o, e, i, i.

I personally don’t understand why people like to anagram/shift/decipher what is obviously a bunch of meaningless filler characters, but I guess we each make our own fun.

Oh, here, solve this:

FJLJRXNLUQVMXZPJTF

It’s a completely random string of letters, but I guarantee that if you try hard enough, you can find a name in there. Probably even your own Zodiac POI’s name. You can use Morse code,
or binary, or Caesar shifts, or anagrams, or multiple substitutions, or anything at all that you can dream up. There are no limits. The world is your oyster.

-glurk

I’m not looking for a name, but a message….. Not a big oyster fan, but one thing to not is that the letters you put do include the word ‘flump’ which is pretty fun to say!

Try this. Set Maximum number of words in each anagram: to 5 or less to begin with and then you can try adjusting the number of letters per word, if ya want to.

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html

I’m sure there’s a thread about this somewhere in which results were posted but I couldn’t find it.

Thanks for the tip!… I’m bored at work and trying anything I can to not fall asleep, so this is helping

Ophion-

My post wasn’t really directed at you, just at the idea of trying to "solve" what (I believe) is meaningless filler. But it’s all good… Incidentally, I looked up "FLUMP" on the Urban Dictionary and did not like what I found, LOL

-glurk

Ophion-

My post wasn’t really directed at you, just at the idea of trying to "solve" what (I believe) is meaningless filler. But it’s all good… Incidentally, I looked up "FLUMP" on the Urban Dictionary and did not like what I found, LOL

-glurk

Yeah, I know….. hahahaha my brother uses the word ‘flump’ or ‘flumpkin’ in his stand-up act so I came to find the word funny, but yeah the meaning is not very pleasant!!

The are confectionery here. I remember them from primary school. A nicer mental image I suspect, It’s too early in the morning to risk checking what it means over the pond lol.