It has nothing to do with Rossmo. I sent him my paper. I would say the ranking step would be considered logical by most people that are familiar with criminal behavior, he is one among many.
As a limiting step it certainly is reasonable. Myself, I always had the sense that he started in a timid way out in the fields around Benicia and Vallejo and then finally got together the courage to strike in the city. I can imagine that, having got to San Francisco, he would – were he to continue – make SF his target from then on. Just a thought, though.
“This isn’t right! It’s not even wrong!”—Wolfgang Pauli (1900–1958)
It has nothing to do with Rossmo. I sent him my paper. I would say the ranking step would be considered logical by most people that are familiar with criminal behavior, he is one among many.
As a limiting step it certainly is reasonable. Myself, I always had the sense that he started in a timid way out in the fields around Benicia and Vallejo and then finally got together the courage to strike in the city. I can imagine that, having got to San Francisco, he would – were he to continue – make SF his target from then on. Just a thought, though.
Fields makes sense, he likes to enjoy rural outskirts. Stine was the outlier, but that seems to be part of his little coordinate system he created in his mind.
The Stine attack was insanely risky. He almost got caught. But it had to be there.
Stine was shot around 9:55PM, on the 11th day of the 10th month of the year, at almost exactly 8 o’clock relative to Mt. Diablo (adjusted for magnetic declination of 1970).
Essentially Zodiac was performing some sort of strange ritual it seems, including time and space. No clue why. His brain was in a strange place, we know that. Seems to be some sort of “cosmic” psychology going on. His operational triangle has similar spatial relationships to Orion, specifically the head, and feet. One of the feet would be standing on Mt. Diablo.
The inner equilateral gives Orion’s belt vibes, but hard to say for sure.
These are things I think of, sitting around waiting. I mean, he called himself “The Zodiac”, and Orion is “The Hunter”. Mt. Diablo would be the star Rigel, if he was inspired by the constellation.
The centroid also creates a circuit that connects his last crime to his first. There are deep things about it all, but some might not notice them. His last cipher points back to his first crime scene road, for example. There is a layer of circularity built into the narrative, but only he knows the full story.
Tell me, @coder1987, what you think of this crazy idea that sticks in my head but that I don’t mention.
Suppose somebody were tell me that one of the canonical murders was not actually by The Zodiac, and then ask me which one I thought it was. What would I answer?
Well, controvertially, I would say it was the attack at Berryessa!
I have never really felt that there were any commonalities between this and the other three. The tying-up, the cartoon mask, the fact that he never wrote about it. It wouldn’t take much at all to persuade me that Berryessa was someone that was trying to hide behind a current scare that was going on at the time.
Of course, there is the writing on the car door and then the phone call. But maybe even these can be put down to trying create the idea it was someone else.
“This isn’t right! It’s not even wrong!”—Wolfgang Pauli (1900–1958)
Essentially Zodiac was performing some sort of strange ritual it seems, including time and space. No clue why. His brain was in a strange place, we know that. Seems to be some sort of “cosmic” psychology going on. His operational triangle has similar spatial relationships to Orion, specifically the head, and feet. One of the feet would be standing on Mt. Diablo.
The inner equilateral gives Orion’s belt vibes, but hard to say for sure.
These are things I think of, sitting around waiting. I mean, he called himself “The Zodiac”, and Orion is “The Hunter”. Mt. Diablo would be the star Rigel, if he was inspired by the constellation.
So would you say that his interest in the stars, and his choice of name, is more inspired by Astronomical thoughts (Orion, Rigel) rather than Astrological (horoscope signs)? If I had to pick one, I would probably go for the former.
“This isn’t right! It’s not even wrong!”—Wolfgang Pauli (1900–1958)
Tell me, @coder1987, what you think of this crazy idea that sticks in my head but that I don’t mention.
Suppose somebody were tell me that one of the canonical murders was not actually by The Zodiac, and then ask me which one I thought it was. What would I answer?
Well, controvertially, I would say it was the attack at Berryessa!
I have never really felt that there were any commonalities between this and the other three. The tying-up, the cartoon mask, the fact that he never wrote about it. It wouldn’t take much at all to persuade me that Berryessa was someone that was trying to hide behind a current scare that was going on at the time.
Of course, there is the writing on the car door and then the phone call. But maybe even these can be put down to trying create the idea it was someone else.
Well, Berryessa had a very ritualistic nature to it. I am also seeing a very ritualistic nature with the Zodiac in general.
Most question the Stine murder, but he proved he did that with the mailed shirt piece. He wanted to be sure it was attributed to him.
I think during Berryessa he was in a disassociated state. Can’t prove it though. It would explain his strange behavior during that crime. You can do your own research into disassociation.
“Zodiac” is confused about who he even is. This is a major psychiatric disorder. Basically, he has lost touch with reality, specifically when it comes to identity.
I think during Berryessa he was in a disassociated state. Can’t prove it though. It would explain his strange behavior during that crime. You can do your own research into disassociation.
No, I get you. I remember having a long discussion about this very idea way back somewhere.
“This isn’t right! It’s not even wrong!”—Wolfgang Pauli (1900–1958)
I think during Berryessa he was in a disassociated state. Can’t prove it though. It would explain his strange behavior during that crime. You can do your own research into disassociation.
No, I get you. I remember having a long discussion about this very idea way back somewhere.
Well if you were talking about this awhile ago, I think you were probably right.
I am a layman, so my opinion is worth literally nothing, but I am pretty sure he had Disassociative Identity Disorder. This is because of his shifting handwriting, a dead giveaway for DID.
I think he called the radio program and was in his scared little child identity at the time. The same one that makes all of the spelling errors.
So the caller you hear, I believe, is the Zodiac, but within a specific identity at that time. He talks differently when his identity changes. I am sure the “Zodiac” has a much more assertive way of speaking.
Something else I think you might be interested in, if you haven’t come across it already.
You know how, in the Little List footnote The Zodiac uses the word ‘radian’ incorrectly? As I think we both agree, all he is intending to describe here is a “radial line.” Well, there is in fact one very specific place where you will find the word “radian” used in exactly this sense (where everyone else would simply say “radial line” or “radius”).
Hold on, let me see if I can find what I’m talking about…
“This isn’t right! It’s not even wrong!”—Wolfgang Pauli (1900–1958)
Something else I think you might be interested in, if you haven’t come across it already.
You know how, in the Little List footnote The Zodiac uses the word ‘radian’ incorrectly? As I think we both agree, all he is intending to describe here is a “radial line.” Well, there is in fact one very specific place where you will find the word “radian” used in exactly this sense (where everyone else would simply say “radial line” or “radius”).
Hold on, let me see if I can find what I’m talking about…
Yes radial lines, but “radials” actually have an even more specific definition, to the military:
“In military aviation and navigation, a radial is a magnetic bearing line extending outward from a ground-based navigational aid, specifically a VOR (VHF Omnidirectional Range) or TACAN station. Radials act as “spokes on a wheel,” numbered 001° to 360° clockwise, used by pilots for positioning, airway navigation, and defining approach procedures.”
I had speculated Zodiac had military training due to polar coordinates + encryption usage. Plus we have the Wing Walkers. The LHR hills are highly strategic for recon and tactical coverage.
But due to his crimes being near body of waters typically, plus being the Bay Area, the term “radials” is more indicative of Air Force (to my knowledge from reading the definition). But perhaps it is also used in the Navy, not sure.
In the Navy, the Dead Reckoning Table in a ship is very similar to what he did with Z32. You can look into that. Might have been drafted in Vietnam, don’t think he would sign up willingly.
The word ‘Radian’ is used in this odd sense around the time in legal notices by the Planning Commission of the County of Fresno. Let me get you an example.
“This isn’t right! It’s not even wrong!”—Wolfgang Pauli (1900–1958)
