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doranchak
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He posted an update about the new cover for his book’s 50th paperback printing:

https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_p … er-is-back

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : June 16, 2015 1:39 pm
morf13
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Back to the classic Yellow, I like it!

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
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Posted : June 16, 2015 3:45 pm
Tahoe27
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I almost bought one off ebay…thought it an original until I saw the ZU mention. Nah…


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 16, 2015 9:53 pm
morf13
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This book is still my favorite, the Book that got most of us interested in the case despite errors,omissions, etc. I am one of the People that doesn’t think Graysmith blatantly tried to hide,or change stuff. I think he made a few mistakes,etc, but he still got a lot of the reports, pictures, and letters for People to see. Not a bad book from a cartoonist. :)

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Posted : June 16, 2015 10:04 pm
Tahoe27
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Ditto.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 16, 2015 10:20 pm
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The biggest sin in this book IMHO is that he knew that the sketch from PH did not match in any way ALA. So he invented the "fog" and the "poor lighting" so that the reason the sketch was off is because the kids had seen Allen but the conditions were poor. Then he never even asked the Robbins kids for an interview and blew off Fouke even after Fouke contacted him after the first book was released and specifically asked RG to interview him. RG said he would do so and that he was penning a second book. Then he simply blew Fouke off again.

The reason is simple and came out in the interviews Jim and I did with the kids and Fouke: When Lindsey saw a photo of ALA in the 1980s shown by Bawart (not by SFPD at any time), he laughed at the possibility that Allen was the man he saw. During my conversations with Fouke he became upset only once–when I brought up Allen’s name. He said that there was no way that Allen was the man he had seen that night and that Allen was "way out of proportion."

Imagine what both of them would say about a suspect who was even heavier than Allen

Mike

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In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 4:04 am
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They’d probably say he looked very close to the sketch if you’re taking a shot at Ross Sullivan.

You mentioned what they said about Allen, what did they say about X being the man they saw? What has Fouke said about X?

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

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Posted : June 29, 2015 4:13 am
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Lindsey said that KQ was the closest to the man he had seen that night of any person he had ever been shown. SFPD had KQ’s photo for four years when we showed it to him in 2003 but Kelly Carroll, who even socialized with Lindsey at the time, never bothered to show it to him because someone like KQ couldn’t be Z. Vince Repetto called my case against KQ "very interesting…compelling" on YouTube last fall. Repetto gave me a fair hearing unlike that jerk Carroll who, as I recall. along with his partner had been singled out in an article as being one of the most incompetent Inspectors at SFPD. His late partner Maloney is the one who admitted to Lafferty that the so-called "Zodiac DNA" from 2002 was useless, as the department finally admitted in 2009. He made this admission not a week after ABC tried to run me over with the bus in 2002. Richard Walter says KQ was Z. What support does Sullivan have outside of a MB?

Fouke looked at two photos of KQ and said that he had the "right chin" to be Z and the other the "right hairline." The only thing he said is that he may have looked too young to be Z…not too old as uninformed people here continue to insist.

Lindsey knew KQ from after the Z era, so his reaction was particularly interesting.

KQ just got linked to Melvin Belli in a 1954 article that proves that they moved in the same social circles. He was also old enough and wealthy enough to have possibly come to the attention of Peek-a-Boo Pennington. Don’t think I’ve forgotten about old Peek-a-Boo even though everyone else has because their suspect wasn’t old enough to be womanizing in the early 1950s.

Mike

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Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 5:31 am
Tahoe27
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Did KQ look at all like Larry Kane?


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 5:34 am
Paul_Averly
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The biggest sin in this book IMHO is that he knew that the sketch from PH did not match in any way ALA. So he invented the "fog" and the "poor lighting" so that the reason the sketch was off is because the kids had seen Allen but the conditions were poor. Then he never even asked the Robbins kids for an interview and blew off Fouke even after Fouke contacted him after the first book was released and specifically asked RG to interview him. RG said he would do so and that he was penning a second book. Then he simply blew Fouke off again.

The reason is simple and came out in the interviews Jim and I did with the kids and Fouke: When Lindsey saw a photo of ALA in the 1980s shown by Bawart (not by SFPD at any time), he laughed at the possibility that Allen was the man he saw. During my conversations with Fouke he became upset only once–when I brought up Allen’s name. He said that there was no way that Allen was the man he had seen that night and that Allen was "way out of proportion."

Imagine what both of them would say about a suspect who was even heavier than Allen

Mike

I do agree with you that the sketch should be considered very accurate. Many treat it as subjective, and try to force suspects that don’t resemble the it at all (Gyke for example)
There are only a small few Z suspects that appear close. X, Ross, Ted K, and possibly Larry.

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 5:57 am
Tahoe27
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And yet none of those guys really resemble each other.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 6:47 am
duckking2001
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You trying to say that all white dudes with glasses and crew cuts don’t look the same?

https://www.google.com/search?q=white+dudes+with+glasses&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=GPiQVY7VBofToAT79KbwCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=800&bih=469

Quick, scan through those pictures for 30 seconds and tell me how many people you can ID. lol

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 11:49 am
morf13
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There are some people whose descriptions are similar to Z, white guy with glasses.

Then, there are some people who look like the description, fit in the proper age range, have same hairline,etc.

You hinted that Ross Sullivan may be too heavy to match the Z sketch, I would counter with MrX being too old to match it.

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Posted : June 29, 2015 5:38 pm
BuckwheatFlowers
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Lindsey said that KQ was the closest to the man he had seen that night of any person he had ever been shown.

Which picture?

 
Posted : June 30, 2015 5:27 am
morf13
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Lindsey said that KQ was the closest to the man he had seen that night of any person he had ever been shown.

Which picture?[/quote

Also Mike, you mentioned that the Family would meet and know MrX after the Stine murder. If he was Z, wouldn’t they be like, "oh my god, it’s the Guy we saw that night". ??? I am a bit skeptical

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : June 30, 2015 6:18 pm
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