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2 Pi radians versus Magnetic North

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 Wier
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Been giving some thought of late to the Radian issue…purely as it relates to the Zodiac Code and Map. My thinking being (if he did actually mean radians) we should be able to show that it had an advantage in terms of the math and was practical to use as it related to the Code and map, over the use of degrees.
My own general findings (part of a much loner theory which I may get to later) would be that he did not use Radians/was impractical to do so.
However there was one particular finding that gives me pause for thought. Don’t know if it’s just an interesting coincidence but I’ll throw it out for consideration….

Zodiac gave us the Map with the instruction " Must be set to Magnetic North"…. the difference between true North and Magnetic North was calculated somewhere between
16.5- 17 degrees at the time.

A Radian angle is equal approximately 57.2958 Degrees. A full circle is 360 in degrees or 2 Pi Radians. In total that are 6.283 Radians in a circle.

As we see in the diagram 6 full radians with a "piece" left over.

Radian = 57.2958 X 6 = 343.77. Full Circle = 360 – 343.77 = 16.23. Ergo the difference between magnetic north and true North (adjustment) is almost the same as the left over piece.
Adjustment 16.5/17 degrees…..left over 16.2 degrees…..less than a degree difference.

 
Posted : August 4, 2013 9:57 pm
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If only I knew anything about math,geometry,etc….sorry I have nothing to add wier

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Posted : August 4, 2013 11:24 pm
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Two functions of radians…one is the bigger the circle the longer the way along the circle line..the second is that it works similar (!) to degrees, but in a different scale, therfore simply shows the direction where to walk.

Magnetic North becaus of

a.) marine
b.) hiking/boyscout

navigational issues, a compass only works based on Magnetic North, not according to Geographic North, as needle always is going to the magnetic part of this globe..

Please find Info on cipher below

Based on what I could figure out, I finally ended up, calculating the langitute/longitude based on one possible cipher solution, at 26, St. Stephens Drive in Orinda, Lafayette


QT

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Posted : August 4, 2013 11:49 pm
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Some Calahan or Cavanaugh owned the building in 74, the drawing reminds turn around in the snow card as well as Ramhona High drawings..no more info until now, except that st stephens drive is close to mt diablo road/blvd and the old orinda cinema. Dead end until today, but…dig the garden!

QT

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Posted : August 4, 2013 11:57 pm
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Two functions of radians…one is the bigger the circle the longer the way along the circle line..the second is that it works similar (!) to degrees, but in a different scale, therfore simply shows the direction where to walk.

Magnetic North becaus of

a.) marine
b.) hiking/boyscout

navigational issues, a compass only works based on Magnetic North, not according to Geographic North, as needle always is going to the magnetic part of this globe..

Please find Info on cipher below

Based on what I could figure out, I finally ended up, calculating the langitute/longitude based on one possible cipher solution, at 26, St. Stephens Drive in Orinda, Lafayette


QT

Why does that little symbol/image on that building look so familiar? I have seen that before someplace. Did you ever post that picture or that symbol on the wall before??

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Posted : August 5, 2013 12:09 am
 Wier
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Quicktrader….In some ways your theory goes to the heart of the argument….Did Z know the difference between Radians and Radii? As to the theory itself…it could not be correct if Z knew what a radian was,in that it could not read RADIANS 18. It could read RADIUS 18 if correct. But then again the flaw for me lies with the fact that Z would have to assume the would be solver was in possession of the very instrument you used to do your measurements, No?

 
Posted : August 5, 2013 1:01 am
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Quicktrader….In some ways your theory goes to the heart of the argument….Did Z know the difference between Radians and Radii? As to the theory itself…it could not be correct if Z knew what a radian was,in that it could not read RADIANS 18. It could read RADIUS 18 if correct. But then again the flaw for me lies with the fact that Z would have to assume the would be solver was in possession of the very instrument you used to do your measurements, No?

Good point. Curious, maybe Z was giving a clue, not knowing there would be a tool like Google Earth to actually solve it,if that makes sense?

QT, I have seen the picture of that design on the house before. Did you post that before someplace? If not,somebody else posted that photo before,I am quite sure.

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Posted : August 5, 2013 4:52 am
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Quicktrader….In some ways your theory goes to the heart of the argument….Did Z know the difference between Radians and Radii? As to the theory itself…it could not be correct if Z knew what a radian was,in that it could not read RADIANS 18. It could read RADIUS 18 if correct. But then again the flaw for me lies with the fact that Z would have to assume the would be solver was in possession of the very instrument you used to do your measurements, No?

Good point. Curious, maybe Z was giving a clue, not knowing there would be a tool like Google Earth to actually solve it,if that makes sense?

QT, I have seen the picture of that design on the house before. Did you post that before someplace? If not,somebody else posted that photo before,I am quite sure.

Morf, QT posted the internet picture. But Sandy & I drove my this house, took & I took & posted a picture for Quicktrader. But no, we did not dig in the garden. :-)

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Posted : August 5, 2013 9:19 am
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In fact the data is correct, such as magnorth from mt diablo observatory…then it is possible to calculate from mt. Diablo, the spot marked on the map, precisely….eg mt diablo longitude/latitude + inches&radians >>> new longitude/latitude position. Like a hiker or boyscout would do.

What I dont know is

a.) who owned the property at the time the map cipher was sent
b.) if the cipher interpretation is correct

Instruments? You only need a compass..

QT

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Posted : August 5, 2013 5:23 pm
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Thanks for clearing that up ZAM. I knew I had seen that before and was going nuts trying to figure out when or where

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Posted : August 5, 2013 6:27 pm
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