I voted and could say a lot more about each of them but to summarize:

Fake
Likely real
Real
Likely fake
Real
Possibly real (50/50)
Probably fake
Probably fake
Fake
Probably fake

Just my opinions. The poll should be interesting…

I voted and could say a lot more about each of them but to summarize:

Fake
Likely real
Real
Likely fake
Real
Possibly real (50/50)
Probably fake
Probably fake
Fake
Probably fake

Just my opinions. The poll should be interesting…

Thanks for your vote entropy, thought I would keep it to yes or no answers, rather than maybe, to see which side people err on.
Lets now hope we get a few votes to get a better idea of the general consensus.

All of the 10 communities look very real to me.
The Eureka Card (A story by Poe )

Thanks for your vote entropy, thought I would keep it to yes or no answers, rather than maybe, to see which side people err on.
Lets now hope we get a few votes to get a better idea of the general consensus.

Fair enough… Fakerealrealfakerealfakefakefakefakefake. Sorry, SLA letter. I banish you to the fake bin.

1. The Fairfield Letter – Fake

2. The 13 Hole Postcard – Fake
3. The Halloween Card – Fake
4. The Pines Card – Fake

5. The Exorcist Letter – Real (but question after SFPD comments)
6. The SLA Letter – Fake (or should I say not even intended to be from Zodiac)
7. The Badlands Letter – Real
8. The Red Phantom Letter – Fake (but not from Zodiac anyway)
9. The 1978 Letter – Fake
10 The Eureka Card – Fake

My answers in blue.
2,3 & 4…same person, not Zodiac imo. viewtopic.php?f=70&t=162
I voted at your site.

My answers in blue.
2,3 & 4…same person, not Zodiac imo. viewtopic.php?f=70&t=162
I voted at your site.

Cheers Tahoe and everyone who’s voted so far

Richard, I voted at your site too. Any letter that was confirmed by Sherwood Morrill to be real, I voted as being real as well. The other handwritten ones, I lean towards some being real, (as well as the ones not handwritten)and some being fake,but would love to get more info on them someday.

It was a very interesting poll, and I have to say that some of the results are a bit surprising to me(in both directions)

…and I have to say that some of the results are a bit surprising to me(in both directions)

For me too morf.

Very cool and interesting. Most people think 13 holes is fake, but they are split on peak thru the pines. Odd that one paste up note is more legit than the other. And everyone thinks Exorcist is real.

I agree with Tahoe, except Marco. Why do you think that’s fake?

I am interested in the Zodiac communities opinion on the validity of 10 sets of correspondence, having your thoughts on the likelihood that these communications are either genuine Zodiac material, or alternatively penned by a copycat or third party.
I would like eventually, if enough votes are cast, to post an article detailing any findings and see if any results contradict the widely publicized opinions of handwriting experts, as well as our own long held beliefs.
The communications included are:
1. The Fairfield Letter – TRUE – starts with ‘This is..’, round ‘f’ letter, Z-type drawings, Z-symbol, cipher, sent during Z high season, dyslexia, no letter as if Z wouldn’t have written it
2. The 13 Hole Postcard – TRUE – used the word ‘crackproof’ as he would do in later letters, also he used the word ‘pigs’ for cops
3. The Halloween Card – TRUE – typical Z-handwriting
4. The Pines Card – TRUE – directed to Paul Avery, dyslexia, Z-symbol, hint to victim no 12, letters written twice, sent during Z high-season
5. The Exorcist Letter – TRUE – sent during Z high season, Z handwriting, dyslexia, Cecilia is said to having visited Mikado with an unknown man, typical ‘+’ handwriting, bodycount Z vs. SFPD
6. The SLA Letter – TRUE – refers to killing, directed to the ‘Editor’, signed with ‘a friend’ similar to ‘a citizen’, sent during Z high-season
7. The Badlands Letter – TRUE – Like Exorcist refers to a movie, referst to killing, signed with ‘a citizen’ similar to ‘a friend’, Z-handwriting incl. typical ‘+’ letter, sent during Z high season
8. The Red Phantom Letter – TRUE – Sent to Chronicle, directed to the ‘Editor’, sent during Z high-season, some similarities in handwriting [also some differences, e.g. the ‘E’ compared to the SLA letter]
9. The 1978 Letter – TRUE – 04-24-28 in perfect Z handwriting, ‘This is …’, sent to Chronicle, referring to Toschi and Herb Caen, mentions ‘city pig’ for cops. In 05-02-78 he also refers to ‘Chief Piggie’.
10 The Eureka Card – TRUE – sent do ‘Editor’, typical Z handwriting, letters written twice

Please spare a moment and place your vote here http://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-let … -fake.html
Thank you.

You can see that I am sort of a real Z letter believer..if any of those letters are fake, imo it might only be either the ‘SLA’ or the ‘Red Phantom’. However even those two contain Z handwriting style as well as have they been sent during a Z high season of letter writing (and killing?).

Ted Kaczynski is not ruled out as the Zodiac, is he? His handwriting is a very good match, just have a look on the ‘f’ in the word ‘friendship’..it goes very well with the ‘f’ on the car door note as well as other Z handwriting..also he was free during the years and in fact started bombing May 1978 when the letters stopped. Also he once used the same stamps like Z..his brown hair (Hartnell) in pompadour style is a good match as it is his height (5’9”) and the fact that he was present in Berkeley. What doesn’t go very well is the glasses, the clean haircut and the overall sketch.

A DNA analysis between Ted and, if possible, Z would be very interesting imo..

QT

Very cool and interesting. Most people think 13 holes is fake, but they are split on peak thru the pines. Odd that one paste up note is more legit than the other. And everyone thinks Exorcist is real.

I agree with Tahoe, except Marco. Why do you think that’s fake?

I think it was written by a woman and possibly even one he had worked with or knew personally, or at the very least had signed a book. This letter to Count Marco mimics Marco’s handwriting style/flair—the long lines at the ends of sentences.

I would imagine most men probably just got a little chuckle out of Count Marco’s babbling, but most women were probably quite offended. When you consider some of his publications at the time, I could see it upsetting a woman…and possibly a close friend (he mentions a friend in one of his writings at the time…quite personal too).

The ONLY thing that would have flagged that letter, imo, would be the envelope.

This is the word ‘Editor’ written in various Z letters and postcards..Melvin Belli and Paul Avery had no such ‘Editor’ as they were directed personally..maybe I am wrong with one letter or so but imo this handwriting all comes from the same person:

QT

The "Editor" in the Count Marco letter looks nothing like the others.

The slant, the e, d, i, t.

…only so many ways to make an o. The r is the closest, but even that’s not a given.

This is an updated one..now in chronological order. Tahoe, actually it e.g. the E looks slightly different – but maybe it now is a better match when compared to other ‘Editor’s during a similar time period.

At least one ‘Editor’ went even through your critical observation: The ‘Red Phantom’ letter’s ‘Editor’…it actually is from the same letter, as ‘Red Phantom’ and ‘Count Marco’ are the same. The second ‘Editor’ came from its envelope and is it even a better match..imo very identical with the Second Herb Caen, the 1970 communications and even the Channel Nine.

QT