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Jarlve
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Hey all,

I just saw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU0cVY- … e=youtu.be and found it really interesting.

But when I go to a POI, Ross Sullivan for example. There is no summary and the information is spread over several huge threads. Maybe I am lazy but my suggestion and idea is to have a detailed and up to date somewhat structured comprehensive summary for each POI that contains relevant information people are looking for. Date of birth and death, personal description, timeline+location, pictures, interesting details in relation to the Zodiac, pro’s and con’s, etc.

Maybe for each suspect a or some person(s) could be "selected" to work on this. Some template could be provided. It may provide long term benefits.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : March 5, 2015 1:58 pm
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Jalvie … In Billy Connelys wonderful accent … THATS BRILLLIANT !!!

 
Posted : March 5, 2015 2:16 pm
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That’s a good idea, Jarlve! Maybe you can take it upon yourself to do it as it would make a wonderful contribution to the forum.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : March 5, 2015 11:35 pm
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We also want to be careful about listing the info if they are alive. If they are dead, or already publicly named, it’s not a big deal

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

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Posted : March 6, 2015 4:57 am
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How are you going to create a summary for POIs, most of whom are shrouded in obscurity or mired in heated controversy? And what concrete details exist aren’t much useful considering a number of the "suspects" cannot be named.

Really, the only person for whom an extensive biography could be written is Arthur Leigh Allen, and he already has a page here and there at the sundry sites.

Even still, you’d have at best a few sentences for this guy, a few for that one, three or four paragraphs for Allen, nearly as many for Gaikowski, and nothing for the remainder, e.g., the so-called Tarbox suspect, aside from the well-known miniscule narrative that cannot be substantiated.

What would you write about Larry/Lawrence Cave/Cane/Kane? Maybe that he "supposedly" did this or that according to him or her? But none of that is actually fact. We don’t even know who Kane/Cave is or was. We can’t even name him correctly.

Yes, a good idea if such a thing were actually practical and possible, but if it were possible and practical someone would have done it already.

No offense intended.

 
Posted : March 10, 2015 6:32 am
Tahoe27
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I mean no offense either, but jroberson’s post made me laugh…

A book about a bunch of losers who all can’t be Zodiac, but thought so creepy they could be him; looked similar, wrote similar, etc.

I know! The encyclopedia of Zodiac POI’s. :lol: :?

There are already what, like 25 books out there. I don’t think we need any more.

Honestly, I don’t know if I can read another Zodiac book. It would have to be really good and probably minus any POI. At this point, I’d probably be more intrigued with a book about the victims lives and promises than another book about Zodiac.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : March 10, 2015 10:05 am
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For most of the popular suspects there are already threads which should serve the purpose, of the "why was NN a suspect?" category. The opening posts in these threads tend to contain pretty much what you need to know – and beyond that, well, you just have to do some digging in the MANY threads pertaining to certain suspects, or should I say "suspects".

In short, I think this forum already contains what the OP asks for – in a fairly accessible form.

Another thing to consider is this (and just like jroberson and Tahoe I mean no offense…):

Focusing on the "suspects" rather than the victims, the crime scenes, the reports, etc. – is not a good thing in my opinion. Most of these people were never good suspects to begin with. They may be interesting by and by, in a "history of the Zodiac phenomenon" sort of way, but they aren’t worth highlighting anymore than they’ve already been. In my opinion. For my money, people who are new to the case are much better off beginning their research by looking at victims, crime scenes – and so forth – rather than focusing on mostly irrelevant people who have been brought up as suspects at various times.

Just my two cents.

 
Posted : March 10, 2015 3:12 pm
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Focusing on the "suspects" rather than the victims, the crime scenes, the reports, etc. – is not a good thing in my opinion. Most of these people were never good suspects to begin with. They may be interesting by and by, in a "history of the Zodiac phenomenon" sort of way, but they aren’t worth highlighting anymore than they’ve already been. In my opinion. For my money, people who are new to the case are much better off beginning their research by looking at victims, crime scenes – and so forth – rather than focusing on mostly irrelevant people who have been brought up as suspects at various times.

i couldn’t agree more. the crimes will be solved by looking at the evidence not by picking random people out of the 1960s to see if they fit the circumstances. through the hard work of morf and others we are constantly getting new information from foia requests, new pieces of the puzzle, news parts of the evidence and as time goes by i expect the law enforcement agencies involved to only continue to provide information. at some point the zodiac mythos will stop being a "cold case" or an actively pursued investigation (probably already isn’t anymore) and will be more of a historical oddity. i think at that point we’ll have a lot more access to the missing pieces. i firmly believe, with all of the available evidence, a group like this will be able to solve these murders. i truly think the devil is in the missed details, the pieces that weren’t put together forty years ago.

 
Posted : March 10, 2015 4:59 pm
Jarlve
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jroberson, Norse and others. You made your points and I’m not offended. On the contrary, I agree and see the logic of what is being said and I changed my POV.

I’ve come up with an alternate way to solve the case, it involves travelling faster than the speed of light and bringing a powerful telescope… :D

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : March 10, 2015 11:50 pm
Norse
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jroberson, Norse and others. You made your points and I’m not offended. On the contrary, I agree and see the logic of what is being said and I changed my POV.

I’ve come up with an alternate way to solve the case, it involves travelling faster than the speed of light and bringing a powerful telescope… :D

I can help you with the former: I own a spaceship capable of faster-than-light travel. The problem is that it handles worse than an old Lada, so I’ll have to insist on you doing the driving. As for the telescope, I’m sure we can come up with something (how hard can it be?)

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 8:24 pm
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I own a spaceship capable of faster-than-light travel.

I think some cultures call that booze.

I read jarlve’s post last night and I almost had a "there’s a premise for a movie in this" moment. One of those, not unheard of, time travel, causality storylines but centred around a bunch of online slueths trying to solve the Zodiac case without realizing that they had actually caused it. Then I got tired and angry and had to lie down before I banned myself.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 9:03 pm
Norse
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I own a spaceship capable of faster-than-light travel.

…but centred around a bunch of online slueths trying to solve the Zodiac case without realizing that they had actually caused it.

That would be the plot, no doubt. A variation on the Planet of the Apes theme, if you will: It was us all along! Je suis Zodiac!

Saying that, I’ve always suspected there’s some kind of basic logical flaw to the Planet of the Apes thing, but I’ve never bothered to investigate it properly, logic not being my strong suit – I just pretend being a rational sort of thinker, in reality I’m far from a scientist – in fact, I don’t like scientists (or logicians) much at all.

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 10:22 pm
Jarlve
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I own a spaceship capable of faster-than-light travel.

I think some cultures call that booze.

I read jarlve’s post last night and I almost had a "there’s a premise for a movie in this" moment. One of those, not unheard of, time travel, causality storylines but centred around a bunch of online slueths trying to solve the Zodiac case without realizing that they had actually caused it. Then I got tired and angry and had to lie down before I banned myself.

Great idea, maybe we can pull such a story off on April fool’s day. :D

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : March 12, 2015 4:03 pm
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