What happened to Gaikowski and Bujok. who are much higher rated suspects than many of the others.

What happened to Gaikowski and Bujok. who are much higher rated suspects than many of the others.

Sorry everybody and UK, I added those 2 names you suggested(wasn’t thinking clearly because I had a bad headache yesterday when I posted it and forgot them)and when I added the names I blew out the results. Sorry, but everybody feel free to re vote

I like seeing the Vote for Rick Marshall. Interesting Suspect for sure, a lot of circumstantial stuff against him, although I don’t personally think he was Z

Ross and Fred are very intriguing suspects. I feel strongly that Zodiac had roots in Vallejo and I don’t see that for those guys. So my vote goes to an unknown.

I take it not everyone can create a poll? Yesterday there were a couple who thought this case couldnt or maybe wouldnt be solved. I would be interested in knowing how many people are for and against the case being solved. Maybe in a timeline: less than a year, 1-5, 5-10, never.

I apologize for my last post on the old poll. Saw an opportunity to poke and seized it.

Soze

I take it not everyone can create a poll? Yesterday there were a couple who thought this case couldnt or maybe wouldnt be solved. I would be interested in knowing how many people are for and against the case being solved. Maybe in a timeline: less than a year, 1-5, 5-10, never.

I apologize for my last post on the old poll. Saw an opportunity to poke and seized it.

Soze

I just figured out how to make a poll. For now, I am going to keep it so that only Moderators can start polls. This is to keep polls from popping up all over the forum at every turn, NOT that that would happen of course. If you want to start a poll, send a PM to myself or another Moderator and they can create the poll for you. I will create this poll that you just suggested

That new poll is here by the way- viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2554

Unofficially, I believe Zodiac has been found. Since he is deceased there won’t be any arrest or trial of the century (like OJ). So, there is little incentive for LE to spend any more time on the case. Even now you see periodic statements by LE saying it is too expensive for DNA tests; they don’t have the money; they don’t have the manpower; no one is dedicated to solving the Zodiac case; we only have a few detectives with a heavy caseload; they can only work on Zodiac in their spare time (if they have any). Then you throw in other factors: too much time has passed; witnesses and original investigators have passed away; memories have faded; the guns may never be found to compare to the bullets recovered at the crime scenes; all the good evidence you would need to be very sure that you have the right suspect will most likely not be found. But there is other information that can be obtained to show a particular suspect most likely was Zodiac. However, that can be problematic because there has been over 2,500 wrong suspects in this case. Some have been more interesting than others, but with that being said, there were also things wrong with those suspects. Since the information (such as looks, height, weight, shoe size, geographical location, the half closed eye, the walk (on Jackson ST), mannerisms, and fitting Dr. David Van Nuys psychological profile) didn’t work out for all those wrong suspects some people feel that you can’t solve this case by using the techniques previously mentioned. It wasn’t what you were comparing the suspect too that was wrong. It is just that the previous suspects were wrong. But if you have one suspect who fits all the comparisons (not just some) then it is highly likely that the suspect was Zodiac, even if you never find the guns for a ballistic test.

Officially, I think if there is no official announcement from LE in the next 5 years then I think they will probably just wait until it is highly unlikely that he would still be alive and then they would close the case.

I read in a report somewhere that a psychological / behavioral profile had been performed using the letters but i dont ever recall seeing a name. Is this Van Nuys the one? If so, may i be directed to the profile.

Oh and i liked your write up legal. All but the bit about him already being identified.

Soze

Reference Dr. David Van Nuys and the psychological profile of Zodiac: Dr. David Van Nuys did a psychological profile of the Zodiac letters and has several short videos of it on YouTube. I have seen the videos and read the book he co-authored. I enjoyed the videos and the book. The book is titled: "This Is The Zodiac Speaking: Into The Mind Of A Serial Killer." He co-authored it with Michael D. Kelleher. I don’t think he did the psychological profile at the request of law enforcement nor do I know what law enforcement thought of his profile. I think he did it because he was contacted by Michael Kelleher and they decided to do the profile and write the book. I only mentioned that I believe Zodiac has been identified because I have my own suspect which I have not publicly named even though he is deceased. I have already reported him to law enforcement in CA. I have received a private e-mail from Napa County Sherriff’s office which is handling Zodiac’s attack at Lake Berryessa.
They acknowledged receiving the information I sent; thanked me for reporting him; that what I sent was being placed in the Zodiac case file for review; and that they cannot comment any further on the case because it is an open homicide investigation. In a nutshell I reported him because: I once told him that he could be Zodiac because he was in the right age group to which he replied: maybe I am, maybe I’m not, who knows;" he lived 4 minutes from where Paul Stine was murdered before the murder happened; he lived 45 minutes from the murders at LHR and BRS; he lived 15 minutes from Cheri Jo Bates murder; his younger pictures of him look just like the Zodiac composite from the Stine murder; he walks the way the unidentified man walked on Jackson St just minutes after the Stine murder; he looks just like the composite of the man at Lake Berryessa two hours before Zodiac showed up; his first, middle and last name are in the 408 (a name that has never been mentioned before); he wore size 10 1/2; his first and last name fit in the "my name is cipher"; he writes like Zodiac; he lived just minutes away from Paul Stine when Paul Stine lived on Fell Street; he lived minutes from Melvin Belli’s house; in 1963 he was living in Lompoc, CA when Robert Domingos and Linda Edwards were killed; he was in the right age group: aged 30 in 1963 and 36 in 1969; had knowledge of weapons and explosives (was a light weapons infantryman during Korean War); was a loner; he fits many of the things Dr. David Van Nuys mentions in his profile of Zodiac.

Why the hesitation to name this man, legalbeagle? He’s apparently already deceased. Initials? Maybe send a PM to morf?
I hope I don’t come across as interrogative. I just jump out of my skin when it comes to unnamed POI’s with lots of red flags like this one. They usually go forever unnamed, for whatever reason.

Why the hesitation to name this man, legalbeagle? He’s apparently already deceased. Initials? Maybe send a PM to morf?
I hope I don’t come across as interrogative. I just jump out of my skin when it comes to unnamed POI’s with lots of red flags like this one. They usually go forever unnamed, for whatever reason.

I agree, I think presenting a Suspect in the top secret section will open up your Suspect for examination and opinions(both good and bad)

As far as my own leanings, I don’t have a specific POI and therefore think it’s someone not on here, since that’s the closest to my own opinion.

I do want to mention the many instances of people having commonalities with Z. To easily convinced people, anyone could be Z. I think this is the reason for the interest in people like ALA and Rick Marshall, who themselves admitted that they somewhat fit the profile of Z. However, I have a friend whom I grew up with who loved The Most Dangerous Game when we read it in school (no clue as to whether that lasted, I never asked), owns many knives and guns, somewhat fits the physical estimations, and is way into calligraphy and printing. We’re both in our late twenties. I don’t think either of us was born yet when Graysmith’s book came out. See what I mean?

That said, going by actual evidence still presents problems. No one really seems to be able to be actually located near any scenes except ALA (lived close to the Vallejo payphone?) or KQ (ambiguous as to where exactly he was spoken to), and we’ve seen how problematic it is to make a substantive case against either.

All things considered, that James Owen fella is rather interesting, I tell ya h’wut. I share morf’s suspicions about him, his account of LHR that night. Not to mention his employment at Humble Oil. I still wouldn’t consider him "my" POI, although I would consider him as such: of interest. Perhaps a little more than some of the others. Then again, perhaps not. I couldn’t tell you with any confidence who I even THINK Zodiac might possibly be.

Titwillo: I saw Frank and the Mothers at one of their concerts held at Pauley Pavilion, UCLA in early ’71. Need I add that what I remember of it was fantastic!