TRAVELLER 1ST; HOW ABOUT THE MOVIE POSTER. HOW DO THE CHARACTER MATCH EACH OTHER?
I BELIEVE THE PERSON WAS TAKING THEIR TIME AND DOING IT NEATLY. BECAUSE IT WAS A MOVIE POSTER.
ALSO, I BELIEVE THERE WERE TWO OTHER MOVIE POSTERS THAT THE POLICE HAD DURING THAT TIME AS WELL.
THE HAND WRITING LOOKED THE SAME. WONDER… WERE THEY COULD BE
GRAYSMITH HAD ONE OF THE MOVIE POSTER DRUING THE MOVIE (ZODIAC) DO YOU RECALL THAT PART?
AND,(V) SAID, THAT HE DID THE MOVIE POSTERS. SO WHICH IS IT, RICK OR (v) ? or
MAYBE, WE SHALL NEVER TRUELY.

TRAVELLER 1ST; HOW ABOUT THE MOVIE POSTER. HOW DO THE CHARACTER MATCH EACH OTHER?
I BELIEVE THE PERSON WAS TAKING THEIR TIME AND DOING IT NEATLY. BECAUSE IT WAS A MOVIE POSTER.
ALSO, I BELIEVE THERE WERE TWO OTHER MOVIE POSTERS THAT THE POLICE HAD DURING THAT TIME AS WELL.
THE HAND WRITING LOOKED THE SAME. WONDER… WERE THEY COULD BE
GRAYSMITH HAD ONE OF THE MOVIE POSTER DRUING THE MOVIE (ZODIAC) DO YOU RECALL THAT PART?
AND,(V) SAID, THAT HE DID THE MOVIE POSTERS. SO WHICH IS IT, RICK OR (v) ? or
MAYBE, WE SHALL NEVER TRUELY.

I don’t think there’s enough there to do a proper comparison. The letterforms that I have seen in the posters are highly stylised and that never helps. There are probably more similarities than people think though and there are a few compelling ones. Here’s my problem though, and to quote Sherwood Morrill from the Fincher movie (whether he actually said this or not) "…it’s the ones that don’t match that trouble me". Zodiac has many little nuances in his writing, mostly everyone knows that and there are the obvious ones like his candy cane f’s. Well he seems to have quite a few others and when I’m looking at someones writing and they have a lot of similarities I have to then look for deal breakers, things that don’t seem to fit.

In the case of the movie poster it’s the C’s that trouble me. It’s not that they don’t match, well they don’t but one of them could be forgiven. It’s that 2 of them seem to have a loose ‘box’ shaping to them so that would be a slight, even just a hint of, a kink at the top and tail. That troubles me because I would need to see more exemplars to see if that’s a trait and if it is it’s not one I’ve seen Zodiac use.

That’s one of the main reason I’m undertaking this work here. It’s so try and get a better picture of all these little variations because even though there are many I believe there’s a pattern, unintentional or otherwise, an within that the stronger trait are easier to see. It’s like planting a forest, to cut down, to see the wood for the trees, then pave over it lol.

Contact Mike Te Selle at KCRA news center 3 in Sacramento He did a report last night about donna Lass being a Zodiac victim.
He went up to Tahoe and interviewed LE Send him your comparisons for the Pines Card. J

Contact Mike Te Selle at KCRA news center 3 in Sacramento He did a report last night about donna Lass being a Zodiac victim.
He went up to Tahoe and interviewed LE Send him your comparisons for the Pines Card. J

"Possible" Zodiac victim.

Contact Mike Te Selle at KCRA news center 3 in Sacramento He did a report last night about donna Lass being a Zodiac victim.
He went up to Tahoe and interviewed LE Send him your comparisons for the Pines Card. J

Not sure it would be worth it J. There’s not very much meat on the bone to work with on it and I might end up deciding that I can’t decide. At best it will be me saying "These are reasons that it could be a possible". I need to wait and see how the rest of this pans out.

Dear taveller1st

I just want to…

…for all the absolutely GREAT work you do.

And if you eve come to Copenhagen, please let me know, and I will make you a special "Zodiac Investigation thanks giving dinner"

theforeigner

by traveller1st » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:04 am

Wier wrote:
Trav,

I’m looking at the Count Marco letter for that "corrected h" and can’t find it. Am I going blind or is there a high resolution copy somewhere that I’ve missed?

Just an aside,have you ever done such comparisons between the Citizen letter and the other "normal" Z letters?

It’s the h in ‘meanwhile’.

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As for comparing the citizen letter to the other zodiac letters, no, not yet but I will be as this thread progresses. I’ve seen things, enough things to convince me it’s him but there’s other stuff going on in that letter as well. I have compared it to the desk poem though. viewtopic.php?f=80&t=397. As I have started this the Marco and citizen it should be no surprise that I’m finding elements in the Marco letter that correlate to the desk and to pretty much everything else. It’s a real mix but I think I can make some sense of it. I start to look at one thing then I have to go through all the written material to find the pattern and it’s there, it’s just that there’s a lot of them.

Then after all that I’ll have to take a step back and think and probably do more work. It’s called the ‘big one’ for good reason, everything we think he ever wrote is involved.

Thanks Trav I see it …..when I seen it first (enlarged) I thought it looked like an "RH" combined, i.e I wondered if it was a correction. I’d never noticed that before but it’s funny where it has shown up….I remember way back being suspicious about the two "g’s" in the word "suggest" or rather the "legs" on same, it was as if they were deliberately pointing to the word "meanwhile", especially as other "legs" in "G’s and Y’s are curved. Not sure it’s anything other than an overactive imagination:)

In any case I’m looking forward to the Citizen/others comparison. I have a couple of ideas I’m working on. I agree it’s Zodiac but I’m more interested in the differences rather than the similarities.

Dear taveller1st

I just want to…

…for all the absolutely GREAT work you do.

And if you eve come to Copenhagen, please let me know, and I will make you a special "Zodiac Investigation thanks giving dinner"

theforeigner

Thank you TF.

Trav, great stuff. Do I recall you saying that you think some of the unconfirmed z letters may actually be the work of z ? If so, are you comparing them too?

I can picture the long drawn out lower case g as written by z, and by a certain somebody else we know, quite similar, as well as that little double mark on top if that one letter, it’s things like that which are hard to discount for me. I’m sending this from my IPhone so I can’t really see your full size work, but hope to check it out closer later today

I remember way back being suspicious about the two "g’s" in the word "suggest" or rather the "legs" on same, it was as if they were deliberately pointing to the word "meanwhile", especially as other "legs" in "G’s and Y’s are curved. Not sure it’s anything other than an overactive imagination:)

Yes the g’s. One straight, one slightly curved … like this.

Ok I couldn’t leave this one alone because it’s been staring me in the face. This is what I call the ‘Super S’. He uses it a handful of times throughout his whole writing campaign. In that respect I think it’s quite unique and quite distinctive. It slips in here and there. I’ve shown here all the variation there are of it. Remember this is just ‘one’ s, he has several other distinct variations that he uses and it’s looking to be the same for the rest of the characters.

You can even see, bottom left, that he has a ‘reverse’ variation of that on the same page in the Mt Diablo letter. There are lots of these little variations spread throughout everything, it’s a real mesh.

Trav, great stuff. Do I recall you saying that you think some of the unconfirmed z letters may actually be the work of z ? If so, are you comparing them too?

I can picture the long drawn out lower case g as written by z, and by a certain somebody else we know, quite similar, as well as that little double mark on top if that one letter, it’s things like that which are hard to discount for me. I’m sending this from my IPhone so I can’t really see your full size work, but hope to check it out closer later today

I’m doing everything. Which is why it’ll take a while.

Wasn’t the Desk Top Poem etched, sort of carved into the wood of the desk itself and then the indentations filled with ink by writing in the grooves? I have always thought that’s how the author wrote it. I am asking because if he carved the letters into a desk first, then that is hardly likely to look like his handwriting because, for example, you wouldn’t be able to do a normal curving letter S, and would probably make it in 3 stroke of diagonal lines fashion?

I don’t think Zodiac was responsible for Cheri Jo’s murder anyway as it happens but I am just curious to know if what I have always assumed (for some reason or other) that the author of the poem, who obviously was not Zodiac and I am glad we are all agreed on that (smirking), had used a knife like took and mutilated a desk in creating the message.

I hope someone will point it out if I am wrong about assuming the message was carved into the wood. If I am then I honestly don’t know why I thought that it had and long time assumed it as how the writer did it.

The desk was written on with a ball point pen. The clue there being ‘ballpoint’…it rolls, you can’t etch or carve with it. There may have been some variation due to surface grain resistance or lack of but it’s written, not etched and certainly not carved. You can clearly see that.

If anything, the ‘style’ used for the confession letter envelopes was carved way more than the desk could ever be considered to be.