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Good stuff Entropy, I am not familiar enough with BTK to comment one way or another

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Posted : February 6, 2014 8:32 pm
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Something is stirring behind the scenes regarding this possible Zodiac connection to the Houston/League City crimes & letters. I have been contacted by multiple people, not connected to each other(I dont think)in the last 24 hrs, interested in a Zodiac connection to that area, pretty odd how I posted this possible connection back in 2009 and it just sat on multiple forums for 4 years, and now there is sudden interest :shock:

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Posted : February 6, 2014 11:51 pm
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I just updated the Lass thread with this info regarding the security guard who was a POI in the Donna Lass case. He wound up living in Houston.

George Victor Jonasson, age 64, of Houston, Texas, passed away April 7, 2009 after a brief illness. Born June 22, 1944 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada he was predeceased by his Mother and Father, sister, brother, and wife Dorothy Huckleberry. Vic is survived by his wife Naureen (Gardner) Buck, four stepchildren; Diana Leck Vasquez (Joe) of Houston, Texas, Robert Leck (Denise) of Liberty Hill, Texas, Christine Lessore (Edward) of Oakham, Massachusetts, Michael Cournoyer (Mandi) of Merryville, Louisiana, and ten grandchildren. A graduate of the University of North Dakota, he was a teacher for several years. The remainder of his career was spent in sales, most recently for Robbins Brothers Jewelers, until his retirement last fall. Vic never met a stranger. His funny and lovable personality made everyone he met at ease. He will be greatly missed. A memorial service will be held Saturday April 18, 2009 at 1:00 P.M. at Carnes Funeral home in Texas City.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 5:48 am
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Entropy: "- It refers to "Officer Pat Cereal Profile Process work" (Rader sent one communication in a Special K cereal box as a witty allusion to himself as a "cereal killer").

AK Wilks: That is very interesting. In his word puzzle he also called himself a LOST PET OFFICER, and here there is OFFICER PAT. I am making an allusion to the similarity in PET OFFICER/PAT OFFICER.

I know the murders were in 1983. When were the letters sent in?

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Posted : February 7, 2014 8:40 am
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The BTK letter referring to his not changing M.O., the Garrote Phantom and the "monster entering his brain" was sent during his initial spree in the mid 70s. The cereal box communication was shortly before his arrest in 2005. Nobody knew of him referring to potential victims as "projects", which I find the most interesting comparison, until after his arrest.

 
Posted : February 7, 2014 1:50 pm
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Out of curiosity, does the name "Tom Humble" on the return address have any significance to this case i.e. is there a real person by that name that has any remote connection? I didn’t read anything to indicate that it did. FWIW, there is a Humble, TX just to the north of Houston.

 
Posted : February 7, 2014 6:34 pm
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Out of curiosity, does the name "Tom Humble" on the return address have any significance to this case i.e. is there a real person by that name that has any remote connection? I didn’t read anything to indicate that it did. FWIW, there is a Humble, TX just to the north of Houston.

Also,there are a ton of refineries there, Humble Oil too

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Posted : February 7, 2014 6:56 pm
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When was the corvette concepts letter sent?

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Posted : February 7, 2014 7:53 pm
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When was the corvette concepts letter sent?

Aprox, 12/20/05. The ‘Corvette’ letter & Laura Lynn Miller letter are one and the same, on both sides of same letter. One side written, one side magazine cutouts.

How many cases in which the Victim’s Father got a letter from someone who was possibly her killer? Not many, Cheri Jo Bates

How many cases in which a person mailed in a cutout/paste up letter, that could be turned either end up,and a message read from either topor bottom? Besides this one letter, the only others I have seen are the Lass case letters

Add those two things together, that’s hard to dismiss, the fact is, these two things are NOT common,yet we see see both traits in the Bates case, Lass case, and a combination of these two things in this case.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 8:39 pm
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When was the corvette concepts letter sent?

Aprox, 12/20/05. The ‘Corvette’ letter & Laura Lynn Miller letter are one and the same, on both sides of same letter. One side written, one side magazine cutouts.

Well, that shoots down my theory since Dennis Rader was arrested in February, 2005. I do wonder if the "Corvette letter" writer (whether he was involved or not) may have borrowed some of BTK’s terminology and M.O. I think it’s very likely actually.

Dennis Rader plead guilty and was sentenced in August, 2005. Many of the details about his activities and letters (including victims as "projects" and the cereal box communication) came out during his courtroom statements and shortly after his sentencing. This certainly would have been front page news in the Houston area at that time.

 
Posted : February 8, 2014 2:42 am
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A certain Edward Wayne Edwards moved to Houston, Texas for a while in the 70s. Edwards also moved to Atlanta, befriended a police official and actually moved into his house – not sure if this was the same time that the Atlanta letters to the police started turning up?

 
Posted : February 8, 2014 4:15 am
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A certain Edward Wayne Edwards moved to Houston, Texas for a while in the 70s. Edwards also moved to Atlanta, befriended a police official and actually moved into his house – not sure if this was the same time that the Atlanta letters to the police started turning up?

You know Quagmire, I just read today as a matter of fact, about Edwards living for a spell in Houston

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Posted : February 8, 2014 10:12 am
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Didn’t we have some alleged Zodiac correspondence in Calif. in 1990 ? The Eureka Letter in Dec , Vallejo Celebrity card in Sept.
Letters / notes claiming to have killed the12 girls in Pittsburg Ca, during the late 80’s through most to the 90’s.

I am with Trav and think the TX letters are a copy cat. And not a very good one at that.

 
Posted : June 22, 2015 9:24 pm
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Didn’t we have some alleged Zodiac correspondence in Calif. in 1990 ? The Eureka Letter in Dec , Vallejo Celebrity card in Sept.
Letters / notes claiming to have killed the12 girls in Pittsburg Ca, during the late 80’s through most to the 90’s.

I am with Trav and think the TX letters are a copy cat. And not a very good one at that.

I think they could be a copycat too. I just wonder why the person wouldn’t just come right out and call himself Zodiac to really be a copycat. It was just a subtle clue in the letter construction that lines up with possible Z letters. But don’t forget, this letter is most like the Donna Lass letters. A Suspect in her case was Jonasson. Jonasson lived in League City where this letter is from. I find that pretty interesting.

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Posted : June 22, 2015 10:52 pm
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The "traced" envelope and wording is not what Tim Miller received in the mail. Someone else created this and injected it into the investigation.
Also in 2005 the original letter and envelope was turned over to the League City Police Dept. It is now MISSING.

I have studied the letter and envelope and I believe is is not put together from magazine cutouts. I believe the words were printed using a word program that easily changes fonts and letter sizes. The author then printed the words on a letter size paper and cut them out for pasting.. Actually this would be much easier and quicker than searching thru piles of magazines because of the different individual word sizes and bold type needed.

 
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