Bryan and Cecilia described the attacker having a white belt. Source: https://books.google.be/books?id=r2nnDw … &q&f=false

He resembles the mystery man at lake Berryessa which the 3 girls described (narrow nose and lips, hair, white belt):

He resembles the mystery man at lake Berryessa which the 3 girls described (narrow nose and lips, hair, white belt):

Nicely spotted. It seems he does resemble it.

That is very interesting indeed.

Bryan and Cecilia described the attacker having a white belt. Source: https://books.google.be/books?id=r2nnDw … &q&f=false

http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport1.html

http://www.zodiackiller.com/HartnellInterview1.html

Can someone please show me where a white belt is mentioned anywhere in the above documentation?

Looks like the San Quentin prison guard guy had a head injury and was left with a 12" scar.

A head injury is a part of the story "The Most Dangerous Game." It is supposed to explain why Count Zaroff is little bit funny in the head.

You will notice that whoever did the art on the Halloween card decided to include a fracture in one of the skeleton’s skulls on the inside image. Either they selected it or made it.

Targets is a 1968 film. It features the ammo brand Super-X which you can see in the trailer. It was directed by Bogdanovich and is about a mass shooter. The inspiration was from Charles Whitman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSc3xAXX5g

Charles Whitman had a brain tumor and it is conceivable this pressure on his amygdala may have caused him to carry out the mass shooting.

August 1, 1966 was the date of the mass shooting from University of Texas belltower, 3 months before Cheri Jo Bates was murdered. I have no doubt the Zodiac followed that incident and has seen those films.

This sounds like Zodiac patternicity to me.

This sounds like Zodiac patternicity to me.

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You find that if a person starts ignoring things pointing away from them. Often results in cherry picking. Or when someone has to come up with complex reasons to explain things away.

That is why I have the reference group back here. viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4855&start=10#p79721

As far as my research has gone, nothing is pointing away from them, there is nothing to cherry pick out and I don’t need complex anything to explain things. If something points away from them that’s another matter. Nothing yet. Nothing even close to fatal. I don’t have to bend any evidence. It just is what it is. I don’t even have to interpret it. Just contrast it with facts you see in articles that are historical evidence of what happened (or at least something did, no smoke without fire).

The research is public domain material. This is because I suspected the Zodiac had beef with newspapers, wanted to be in the papers and had a long experience with them before the tragic events called the Zodiac crimes.

It’s amazing how much attention they were getting in the newspapers in the 50s and 60s and then all that stops with the Zodiac crimes.

Why is BD Holland ignoring my question regarding the white belt?

BD,

I’m not questioning your research. My point is that your premise is based on patternicity. That is the tendency to find patterns and connections where none exist. It’s a common human trait; our brains are hardwired to find patterns. It’s very common in the Zodiac community as well. If you look hard enough you can find connections to all sorts of things.

“Paul Stone was murdered on Wash and Cherry. Obviously, this is an allusion to Washington chopping down the cherry tree. He also used Roosevelt stamps. This must mean that he won the Presidential Physical Fitness Exam. If you research winners from the 1940s you could narrow your search.”

Zodiac wasn’t a criminal mastermind playing 3 dimensional chess and leaving esoteric clues for us to follow. I know that’s an appealing thought to you. That if you just piece together all the little hints that he is leaving, it will lead you to him.

It won’t.

Zodiac was no genius. There’s no puzzle to solve. He was a barely literate liar and fraud. If he were alive today, my guess is he would be chuckling at all the people following his “fake clews” down wild goose chases.

My advice: Stick to the physical evidence and away from the Da Vinci Code-esque puzzle solving.

I don’t suppose anyone remembers offhand where that strange, watercolor-style LB sketch came from? That was not the sketch that appeared in the papers.

That’s the ident-i-kit composite, there were a few with subtle differences.

It’s the person the three girls at the beach saw, and a very good chance he was not the Zodiac.

Bryan and Cecilia described the attacker having a white belt. Source: https://books.google.be/books?id=r2nnDw … &q&f=false

http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport1.html

http://www.zodiackiller.com/HartnellInterview1.html

Can someone please show me where a white belt is mentioned anywhere in the above documentation?

Was it a fault in the book? Or did the authors have more information than in these reports?

Could the white T-shirt they saw hanging out of the pants have actually been a white belt, as Brian Hartnell reported?

In the following sketch it appears to be a white belt also? Not sure if it is a belt or part of the jacket/pants.

That is not a white belt; it’s the elastic waste band of a jacket. Nobody ever described Zodiac as wearing a white belt. Ever.

Zodiac wasn’t a criminal mastermind playing 3 dimensional chess and leaving esoteric clues for us to follow. I know that’s an appealing thought to you. That if you just piece together all the little hints that he is leaving, it will lead you to him.

It won’t.

There are lots of threads with your hypothesis that the Zodiac’s signature, his inner emotional need, was just to write in meaningless nonsense and fake puzzles. It’s an older claim and around for awhile. I looked at it and it has it’s caveats when you look at it more.

The Zodiac changed his MO. The Zodiac is not identified by MO. The Zodiac is identified by signature. His emotional need. The killings are just a means to an end. The signature is the Zodiac sends in communications containing puzzles to his identity. It is one way how LE identified him. We wouldn’t even know he murdered Stine if he didn’t tell us. He had to leave a message on the car at Lake Berryessa his MO changed so much.

So is this serial killer murdering people with different MOs, all just to send communications with misleading nonsense? Is that supposed to be satisfying enough for them in that serial killer model? The killings a means to an end and that end was to send in nonsense? He didn’t have to murder anyone to do that.

Then there is the issue that the Z408 was actually a functional puzzle that was solved so we know he is trying to do them.

More importantly BTK did the very thing some claim serial killers don’t do. http://www.tabloidcolumn.com/btk-puzzle.html

That applied to their DNA dragnet would have got him.

Anyway I laid a number of points out in my previous post about how to identify your pattern seeking by showing me what I cherry picked out from research here. I have also laid out the reference to all the other candidates and people can look at how they compare on the points I am raising. Then there is how these guys stand on their own.

The fact is a pattern is still consistent with a correct solution. We can say a pattern with almost anything and we are none the wiser. So you need additional evidence to compliment that. That’s the way I see it. Doesn’t stop me researching more though. Timelines are important.