LOL…kind of like, "it depends on what your definition of is is"

Lotsa evidence everywhere on the Z sites and in all the Z books that these people were at the very least in proximity to each other. Larry Kane and Donna Lass absolutely knew each other…we go backwards from there. Darlene’s sister says Darlene knew several of these people.

I knew several of these people:)

This has degenerated into a ‘discussion’, I hesitate to use the term, about a POI, also hesitant.

If anyone has a ‘POI’ with the initials RH please mention it once and if you wish to explore that then please do so in the relevant section on the board and then link to it. If you can’t figure out where that might be or are unsure then ask someone. The original premise of this thread was that the letters ‘rh’ might not be a name. A little leeway is afforded of course as it’s a grey area but this has now drifted into thread-jack territory.

trav.

LOL…kind of like, "it depends on what your definition of is is"

Lotsa evidence everywhere on the Z sites and in all the Z books that these people were at the very least in proximity to each other. Larry Kane and Donna Lass absolutely knew each other…we go backwards from there. Darlene’s sister says Darlene knew several of these people.

I knew several of these people:)

You should know by now that you can not believe everything online or even what is in books especially when there are no sources or documentation. Sometimes you can’t even believe the victims relatives and in this case particularly Darlene’s sister Pam, who I am sure is a lovely person, but she has been damaged by her sister’s murder and changed her story many times.

Proximity is not evidence of anything.

LOL…kind of like, "it depends on what your definition of is is"

Lotsa evidence everywhere on the Z sites and in all the Z books that these people were at the very least in proximity to each other. Larry Kane and Donna Lass absolutely knew each other…we go backwards from there. Darlene’s sister says Darlene knew several of these people.

I knew several of these people:)

All hearsay.

The word evidence does not apply.

Waay pathetic:(

Waay pathetic:(

I agree with Trav. Maybe you should lay out your case in an appropriate thread. The "rh" discussion started off ok, but it has veered a bit.

Maybe in the "Other POI" thread: viewforum.php?f=47

Or the "Top Secret" thread–which is only viewed by members here: viewforum.php?f=107

So anyways like I was saying … IMO rh stands for riverside halloween.

IMO The author is showing the location and time of the murder. Riverside and Halloween.

(3 years later a curious Halloween card is sent to Avery after PS’s murder)

I don’t think he would sign his actual initials. Too risky.

So anyways like I was saying … IMO rh stands for riverside halloween.

IMO The author is showing the location and time of the murder. Riverside and Halloween.

(3 years later a curious Halloween card is sent to Avery after PS’s murder)

I don’t think he would sign his actual initials. Too risky.

Not a bad theory at all

I don’t think he would sign his actual initials. Too risky.

agreed. it’s more likely something like "remember her" or "remembering her". something symbolic but likely not the author’s initials.

Well, it’s not risky to sign a poem – as in, a poem, not an insanely elaborate “clue” which you have hidden on the underside of a desktop for the police to find and interpret as a message from a serial killer – with your own initials. That’s not risky at all, in fact. Worst case scenario: You have highly uncommon initials, the poem is discovered, your identity is divined – and the principal makes you clean the desk.

Well, it’s not risky to sign a poem – as in, a poem, not an insanely elaborate “clue” which you have hidden on the underside of a desktop for the police to find and interpret as a message from a serial killer – with your own initials. That’s not risky at all, in fact. Worst case scenario: You have highly uncommon initials, the poem is discovered, your identity is divined – and the principal makes you clean the desk.

Actually, the worst case scenario, you go on to become an infamous serial killer, and a creepy little poem from years before, on the underside of a desk, found in storage,in a City 6 hours south, becomes your undoing

Actually, the worst case scenario, you go on to become an infamous serial killer, and a creepy little poem from years before, on the underside of a desk, found in storage,in a City 6 hours south, becomes your undoing

Heh – yes, or that.

I guess my main point is this: Whether it was Z or not, there’s a good chance the initials ARE his (or hers), because the likelihood of the poem being written by a serial killer as a serial killer, as a clew or a taunt – is slim to nil, IMO.
It was a teenage girl – or it was Z writing a poem as plain old (or young, rather) Rock Hudson.

The bad thing is that we have to assume the initials of the "poet" are RH, when they might not be. Could be the first and middle initial, or maybe initials of a nickname. We don’t know, but we can check into people with the initials of RH and hope we find something.

I found a website with a lot of names of Ramona H.S. alums, so I wrote down a bunch of names that I will start checking out. Some of the names were listed on here already. The list consists of people with initials of RH or R as a middle initial and H as last initial or anyone named Bob with the last initial of H or… well you get the picture I’m sure. There are over a hundred names on the list. I have been slowly researching some of the names and either crossing them off or leaving them on the list to do further research.

RH being his initials would be too easy and nothing is easy in this case. I’d like to think RH would be his initials, but it may very well not be.

I agree 100%.