Question…did the Confession letter ever make it into the Northern CA newspapers at the time, like the SF Chronicle, or was is just published
in LA originally?
Question…did the Confession letter ever make it into the Northern CA newspapers at the time, like the SF Chronicle, or was is just published
in LA originally?
Was it ever published in any paper? I’m drawing a blank.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Question…did the Confession letter ever make it into the Northern CA newspapers at the time, like the SF Chronicle, or was is just published
in LA originally?Was it ever published in any paper? I’m drawing a blank.
Hmmmm….me too, will have to look
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Well, in 2010 I wrote elsewhere "I don’t believe the Confession Letter was ever published, nope, and I do think it was a genuine "scoop" for GS to have it in his book. (Now I stand ready to be corrected, but if it was I’ve certainly never seen it in print)."
And I wasn’t corrected, if that’s anything to go by.
I remember looking for it extensively back then, but I still stand ready to be corrected….
BTW, the exhortation that "THIS LETTER SHOULD BE PUBLISHED FOR ALL TO READ IT" wasn’t viewed the same way as the later "If you do not print this cipher by the afternoon of Fry.1st of Aug 69, I will go on a kill rampage" message – as extortion – and hence (I guess) no FBI involvement at the time.
Which would have been interesting, maybe.
Well, in 2010 I wrote elsewhere "I don’t believe the Confession Letter was ever published, nope, and I do think it was a genuine "scoop" for GS to have it in his book. (Now I stand ready to be corrected, but if it was I’ve certainly never seen it in print)."
And I wasn’t corrected, if that’s anything to go by.
I remember looking for it extensively back then, but I still stand ready to be corrected….
I seem to recall trying to find it too. One of the reasons I thought the comment by Dave Smith, the L.A. Times reporter was interesting…sounds like the Confession letter to me:
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
I think Dave Smith’s piece sounds like the Confession letter, too.
I seem to recall commenting at the time that perhaps there was a journalistic exercise or a known "style" that was around earlier, (like an earlier "Gonzo" if you see what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_journalism …), to which both writers conformed? That’s the only thing I could think of.
Or Dave Smith’s The Zodiac Killer, of course, and we need to see his handwriting…. 
I think Dave Smith’s piece sounds like the Confession letter, too.
I seem to recall commenting at the time that perhaps there was a journalistic exercise or a known "style" that was around earlier, (like an earlier "Gonzo" if you see what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_journalism …), to which both writers conformed? That’s the only thing I could think of.
Or Dave Smith’s The Zodiac Killer, of course, and we need to see his handwriting….
And a hood, cabbie keys and a fat suit would be handy….ok maybe not the last one – just trying to please everyone 
“I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.“
The killer(s) of CJB may have been one of the ones involved in what I allege to have been a group effort which was The Z.
ref Kaczynski and Zodiac – Shared Words, Phrases and Handwriting viewtopic.php?f=102&t=250&p=4078#p4078
ref "the fringe element" viewtopic.php?f=96&t=645
ref The "Hoax" Theory. Problems. viewtopic.php?f=96&t=646
"Jerry, just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it." George Costanza from Seinfeld
The killer(s) of CJB may have been one of the ones involved in what I allege to have been a group effort which was The Z.
ref Kaczynski and Zodiac – Shared Words, Phrases and Handwriting viewtopic.php?f=102&t=250&p=4078#p4078
ref "the fringe element" viewtopic.php?f=96&t=645
ref The "Hoax" Theory. Problems. viewtopic.php?f=96&t=646
As not to take this thread off topic, you should start a thread about your Zodiac ‘team’ theory in the THEORIES section, and lay out how & why Zodiac was a team in your opinion
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True.
And meantime I would still very much like to see Dave Smith’s handwriting, know more about his career, and have some idea of his background, training and so on.
Re Zodiac’s use of the word, "shall" as being possibly English. As I remember, comment was once made on Zodiac’s use of the phrase, "Happy Christmas" as being of English derivation.
If you believe Zodiac killed Cheri Jo Bates, and that he also sent the Confession Letter, then you must conclude that Cheri Jo couldn’t have given
the "brush off" in High School to a 35 year old man. Her killer then would need to be a contemporary, within 4 years of her age. Furthermore, I can
assure you, having been a young woman once, that girls find older men somewhat creepy and wonder about their motives when trying to befriend you.
And while I’m on the subject, I have personally been to the site of the Lake Berryessa killings many times over the years, since I was 19. For a 40 year
old man to traverse the terrain there to get down to the water’s edge, to then commit a very physical murder and attack, sounds like a stretch.
Well said Soze. I believe it was Fouke who said to "age" the composite, so the teens account would put him right around that age and they probably got the better look.
Well said Soze. I believe it was Fouke who said to "age" the composite, so the teens account would put him right around that age and they probably got the better look.
According to Fouke he had nothing to do with the composite though. It was supposedly the teens who said to change it.
I can’t help but think of his comment in the scratch/memo…"possibly graying in the rear", but then when on to say "it could have been the lighting".
So did age come from POSSIBLY graying? And if it WEREN’T graying, would the age be revised, by Fouke, to a younger man?
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
There is no way to confirm that Foulkes and Zelms saw Zodiac. What was he covered in blood, carrying a gun? there is no corroboration here.
They might be able to say they saw him after they viewed the composite based on eyewitness accounts. But Foulkes and Zelms would need
a lot more than seeing a man walking down a street in SF at night to bring charges against him. Which goes back to my point about Cheri Jo,
how old was the guy she encountered that night? Would she feel free enough to trust him to help her, talk with her?
