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I have my opinions on this, but would like to hear yours. After the first confirmed murders at Lake Herman Road on December 20th 1968, the Zodiac Killer reappeared on July 4th 1969, a gap of 197 days. At the end of 1969 he mailed us the Melvin Belli Letter on the anniversary of the Lake Herman Road double murder, but would again go into winter hibernation from December 20th 1969 until the arrival of the ‘My Name is….Letter’ on April 20th 1970, a gap of 122 days. This excludes the disputed Modesto abduction of Kathleen Johns on March 22nd 1970, but even if it was included the difference would still amount to 93 days. Finally, the end of 1970 would again see the Zodiac Killer disappear beyond the radar, from his mailing of the Halloween Card on October 27th 1970 to the Los Angeles Letter on March 13th 1971, a gap of 138 days. Three consecutive years with periods of hibernation spanning 197,122 and 138 days, averaging out at 152 days or 5 months of silence, yet on every other occasion the average time delay between contact/correspodence is less than a month. Is this coincidence, if not where did he go during these periods of inactivity. Did he take his crimes out of state, did he leave the country each year, did he visit family or did a particular profession negate his ability for contact.
Even if we assume the Bates murder and Riverside Desktop Poem, his hibernation again occurred until the ‘Bates had to die’ letters on April 30th 1967, and we have another noticeable rest period of 4/5 months. :idea: :idea: :idea:

 
Posted : May 26, 2015 2:02 pm
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my opinion – it’s a lot harder to murder someone and get away with it than it is to mail a letter. for the killings, he may have needed to wait for family to be out of town, or for an opportunity to travel for work, he may have had some opportunities but didn’t find any victims during those periods, etc. for the mailings, he could have done all of it from home except dropping it in the mailbox.

i’m still of the opinion (a hunch, really) that he traveled for work and use the weekends during these travel periods to commit the murders and mail the letters.

 
Posted : May 26, 2015 4:54 pm
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Since those periods of time are in increments of a certain amount of months, I wonder if the answer could be away on military duty for lengths of time, working out of state, or my personal favorite, locked up in a mental institution for various lengths of time.

Certainly a good topic.

197 Days, just over 6 months

122 Days, just over 4 months

138 days, just over 4 months, not quite 5

Military,Training, schooling, work, institutionalized, etc could all be possible answers. Hard to think he would stay away for that long when he liked the attention so much.

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Posted : May 26, 2015 6:00 pm
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Could have been at sea.

The old merchant marine theory.

It’s hard to tell if there is a true pattern there or not, though. There’s a fair gap between most of his letters, often a month or so. Then we have these longer intervals. Whether the latter are actually different in nature from the former is impossible to say. Perhaps he just got the urge to write every so often – and it varied how often that was.

As for LHR, I don’t think his silence was imposed on him. I simply don’t think it occurred to him to write until BRS. Perhaps he had imagined a different sort of reaction after LHR – and with that in mind, he set to work making sure he would get the right kind of publicity after BRS.

 
Posted : May 26, 2015 6:34 pm
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Could have been at sea.

The old merchant marine theory.

It’s hard to tell if there is a true pattern there or not, though. There’s a fair gap between most of his letters, often a month or so. Then we have these longer intervals. Whether the latter are actually different in nature from the former is impossible to say. Perhaps he just got the urge to write every so often – and it varied how often that was.

As for LHR, I don’t think his silence was imposed on him. I simply don’t think it occurred to him to write until BRS. Perhaps he had imagined a different sort of reaction after LHR – and with that in mind, he set to work making sure he would get the right kind of publicity after BRS.

That’s one I forgot about, good possibility

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Posted : May 26, 2015 6:35 pm
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As for LHR, I don’t think his silence was imposed on him. I simply don’t think it occurred to him to write until BRS.

Unless….DARE I SAY IT, he was the Bates letter writer and/or caller in her case, then he already had shown a pattern of writing letters, and calling

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Posted : May 26, 2015 6:37 pm
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Sometimes I think he just didn’t want to fall off the radar.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : May 26, 2015 8:47 pm
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Unless….DARE I SAY IT, he was the Bates letter writer and/or caller in her case, then he already had shown a pattern of writing letters, and calling

Hehe. Yes.

Could claim that no letter post LHR indicates that he was not responsible for the Riverside letters, though – for the very reason that he did not write after LHR. It doesn’t follow the pattern – until he includes it in the BRS letter, that is. If you look at it in isolation, I still say the silence after LHR indicates a killer who had not yet figured out that he would add a letter writing campaign to his killing ways.

Then again, if he WAS responsible for Riverside he may have, for various possible reasons, considered it a separate deal. He didn’t identify himself as anything like Zodiac in those letters/communications. In fact, I think we have to say that he DID consider it a different deal IF he was responsible for Riverside. He states plainly enough that he started his “collecting of slaves” with LHR, and he doesn’t take credit for Riverside until Avery writes about the connection.

 
Posted : May 26, 2015 10:42 pm
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You didn’t offer it as a suggestion so I will raise it: is it possible that, during the times he committed the crimes (1969) and wrote letters ( 1969 – 1974 and beyond), he actually lived out of state and traveled on business? A salesman maybe? Some sort of occupation that required the use of his own car? Maybe lived in a state that actually had snow and didn’t travel during winter months? Where I live our snowy times are between January and March. Been a time or two where we had snow in December and April but rather rare.

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Posted : June 2, 2015 9:09 am
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In reading over on the Darlene Ferrin pages, Darlene told her babysitter, and her babysitter told police, that her possible stalker "had just gotten back from out of state." Make of that what you will.

 
Posted : July 15, 2015 2:06 am
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Perhaps he suffered from seasonal-affective disorder and simply couldn’t motivate himself to engage much in "external" activities during the winter months.

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Posted : July 15, 2015 4:02 pm
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A semi-related question …. does anyone know when Berkeley or other area schools ended their semester in Dec. 1968?

 
Posted : July 23, 2015 9:32 am
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A semi-related question …. does anyone know when Berkeley or other area schools ended their semester in Dec. 1968?

At a guess: Around the 20th.

I found an old UC Davis calendar from the mid-60s and the last order of business there was the 20th. Depends how you define it, though.

When would the actual courses taken by Student NN have ended?

Guess: Between the 15th and the 20th.

 
Posted : July 24, 2015 1:40 am
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This is an extremely interesting observation. Just a quick note that Donna Lass disappears in September 1970 and the peek through the pines letter shows up in March 1971, fitting the pattern.

 
Posted : January 8, 2018 3:36 am
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There might be something to this. The distribution per month of the canonical vs non-canonical attacks and letters is different. The canonical events distribution per month of the year is peakier and the non-canonical event distribution is flatter. The canonical distribution shows increased activity in March-April, July, and October, with periods of low or no activity in January-February and May. The only "canonical" event in January is the 1974 Exorcist letter, which I have never liked very much.

Of course, the sample size of non-canonical events is smaller, which may affect the analysis, but one would then expect it to show more variation than the larger canonical set, rather than less.

Interestingly, a canonical plus list which adds Santa Barbara, the CJB related events, the Donna Lass events, and the Radetich murder to the canonical list reinforces the pattern. We know already that there is a strong preference for Z to be active on weekends, at least for attacks. It may be that Z also had strong seasonal preferences.

Canonical events:

Lake Herman Road murders
Blue Rock Springs murders
408 Cipher letters
This is the Zodiac speaking letter
Lake Berryessa murders
Paul Stine murder
Stine shirt letter 1
340 Cipher letter
Fouke Letter
Stine shirt letter 2
My name is letter
Blast letter
Zodiac Buttons letter
Kathleen Johns letter
Mikado letter
Halloween card
Riverside letter
Peek through the pines letter
Exorcist letter

Non-Canonical events

Santa Barbara murders
Cheri Jo Bates murder
Cheri Jo Bates confession letter
Bates had to die letter
Kathleen Johns attack
Radetich murder
Donna Lass disappearance
13th letter
You are next letter
SLA letter
Badlands letter
Red Phantom letter
It’s me letter

 
Posted : January 8, 2018 6:06 am
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