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Not being familiar with American postcodes, I read on Cracproof.com that many of the letters were mailed from the Richmond area of San Francisco. Can anybody confirm this. Cheers :D

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 2:08 am
 Soze
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I don’t know that his letters were mailed from Richmond but the sectional center for San Francisco is in Richmond. I have a write up on this at ZK under Sean’s post concerning stamps. Probably should be here too as it fully discusses the ins and outs of us mail. I’ll do that tonight or tomorrow but you know where its at if you want to look at it.

Soze

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 3:01 am
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Just to clarify…there is a Richmond "district" within San Francisco and a city of Richmond outside of S.F. Of course we are talking about the area within S.F.

Not sure how anyone could tell what district a letter was dropped of at, in a mailbox let’s say. They of course go through a sort facility and that would be marked, but as far as a particular mailbox, I have no idea.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 3:17 am
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Didn’t Tom mention that one of the actual mailboxes a letter was mailed from, was known to the police? Was that verified?

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Posted : July 30, 2015 4:16 am
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Didn’t Tom mention that one of the actual mailboxes a letter was mailed from, was known to the police? Was that verified?

Here’s the thread about the mailbox. There is a You Tube with Tom talking about the mailbox.

http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/7 … bmPKNjH_IU

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 6:46 am
Paul_Averly
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Tom makes this questionable claim, then members of his site ask him for more details and he says nothing. He must read this site, since he corrects the locations to the ones I point out on our thread:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=2143

Things like this that Tom says should be taken with a grain of salt. His own claims seem to debunk this since:

there are only two possible unprocessed letters with one being mentioned by Sherwood as to being found in the post office. The other was in 1974 and doubtful letter carriers were looking for one then.

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 7:38 am
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I was told the number is the district and the letter is the neighbourhood within the district ie 1 is the northwest district and the A is central Richmond neighbourhood and the postmark of the Dripping pen card has a 4A; this is the Balboa Terrace neighborhood in the Twin Peaks West district. Thanks everyone.

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 11:22 am
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to my knowledge there has never been any evidence presented that a specific drop location is known for any of the zodiac letters.

in a related question, does anyone know if the peek through the pines card made it through the mail or was intercepted? i ask because it clearly has the zodiac symbol for the return address, so i’d assume during the sorting process someone would have noticed.

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 4:06 pm
Tahoe27
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to my knowledge there has never been any evidence presented that a specific drop location is known for any of the zodiac letters.

in a related question, does anyone know if the peek through the pines card made it through the mail or was intercepted? i ask because it clearly has the zodiac symbol for the return address, so i’d assume during the sorting process someone would have noticed.

That card was not mailed. It appears to have been dropped off.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 7:19 pm
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to my knowledge there has never been any evidence presented that a specific drop location is known for any of the zodiac letters.

in a related question, does anyone know if the peek through the pines card made it through the mail or was intercepted? i ask because it clearly has the zodiac symbol for the return address, so i’d assume during the sorting process someone would have noticed.

That card was not mailed. It appears to have been dropped off.

ah, gotcha. the lines through the lincoln "stamp" looked like a postmark but now i see that it’s likely part of the card itself. thanks tahoe.

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 7:42 pm
Tahoe27
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You’re welcome. :)

To anyone who might be curious as to the lines masootz referred to, you can see them here: viewtopic.php?f=70&t=848


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 7:56 pm
Paul_Averly
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Dropped off? Yes postcards come pre-paid, no need for a stamp, all they need to do is be dropped in the mail. The Pines Card was the only pre 1974 letter without a postmark,but is wasn’t found in a mailbox, it was found in a mail processing center.

-In this video at 1:33:15, Sherwood talks about how the Pines card was found in the post office:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI0jnsbZwys

 
Posted : August 1, 2015 6:52 am
Tahoe27
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That is why I used the term "appeared". I did not mean dropped off at a mailbox. Of course this card was pre-stamped. It wasn’t a typical postcard–those do require stamps.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 1, 2015 7:08 am
Paul_Averly
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That is why I used the term "appeared". I did not mean dropped off at a mailbox. Of course this card was pre-stamped. It wasn’t a typical postcard–those do require stamps.

Then how did it make it to the processing center if it wasn’t mailed?

 
Posted : August 1, 2015 7:10 am
Tahoe27
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Maybe he worked at the post office. Maybe it was dropped in the slot at the post office. I wasn’t saying specifically it was dropped off at a mailbox. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. It did not go through the mail in the typical sense. It was not postmarked so there is no way of knowing where it came from.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 1, 2015 8:09 am
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