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(@xcaliber)
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Over here…

https://www.reddit.com/r/serialkillers/ … ac_killer/

Tom says no one has been arrested or identified.

Nice find. So to me, that would imply they don’t know yet if they have suspect DNA.

It would also imply they don’t necessarily have a profile – which may or may not be a given.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 9:51 pm
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I just don’t understand what they would have to gain from this. Why admit they have DNA (assuming that it is true), before they have used it to indentifing anybody yet. surely they would keep this close to their chest, why would you possible tell Z that your were onto him. Obviously we do not know for sure if it was LE that have acquired this.

Are they looking for some sort of reaction ?

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:02 pm
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Over here…

https://www.reddit.com/r/serialkillers/ … ac_killer/

Tom says no one has been arrested or identified.

Nice find. So to me, that would imply they don’t know yet if they have suspect DNA.

It would also imply they don’t necessarily have a profile – which may or may not be a given.

Nice Find!…..What Tom Wrote at Reddit Below….

Tom_Voigt
-20 points·12 hours ago
I’m your only source for now. That’s just the way the cookies have crumbled. Maybe someone within the MSM can corroborate, I don’t know…however, I am telling the truth/

Tom_Voigt
-1 points·12 hours ago
No, nobody has been arrested.

Tom_Voigt
-3 points·12 hours ago
Nobody has been identified.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:08 pm
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Over here…

https://www.reddit.com/r/serialkillers/ … ac_killer/

Tom says no one has been arrested or identified.

Nice find. So to me, that would imply they don’t know yet if they have suspect DNA.

It would also imply they don’t necessarily have a profile – which may or may not be a given.

You can’t be serious? They do have the Zodiac’s DNA , but are in the process of putting it into GED match to get the name of the Zodiac. They can’t make an arrest until that takes place. So he has not been identified as of yet, that does not mean there wasn’t any DNA found. Have you not watched the news on how the GSK was caught? If not I suggest that you watch it to see how it is done.

cragle,VPD still think Zodiac was Art Allen so they didn’t think that making the announcement would harm the case. It was not the best thing to do until they get the name from GED Match in my opinion.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:08 pm
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I just don’t understand what they would have to gain from this. Why admit they have DNA (assuming that it is true), before they have used it to indentifing anybody yet. surely they would keep this close to their chest, why would you possible tell Z that your were onto him. Obviously we do not know for sure if it was LE that have acquired this.

I’m also wondering about this. As usual, everything seems so confusing with this case!

It’s far-fetched, it could be that they have suspects who are still alive and of whom we know nothing about, and this announcement is some kind of attempt to see if it causes any panic in any of those suspects thus eliminating some extra work.

Or then they are just extremely confident that the perpetrator is deceased and revealing new developments would make no difference.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:09 pm
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so, someone might have dna from some piece of evidence that has been handled by countless people over the past fifty years? i’ll organize the parade.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:11 pm
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I just don’t understand what they would have to gain from this. Why admit they have DNA (assuming that it is true), before they have used it to indentifing anybody yet. surely they would keep this close to their chest, why would you possible tell Z that your were onto him. Obviously we do not know for sure if it was LE that have acquired this.

Are they looking for some sort of reaction ?

Agreed. And even if LE was convinced all suspects were deceased, it’s not like LE to operate that way.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:22 pm
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cragle,VPD still think Zodiac was Art Allen so they didn’t think that making the announcement would harm the case. It was not the best thing to do until they get the name from GED Match in my opinion.

If so that is a Very dangerous game to play. Surely this would not be standard procedure in cases like this, even if you believe your suspect was the man. It seems like a major Clusterf*** in the making.

They refused to show some of the known other Zodiac communications (Obviously I know due to being able to confirm a confession) but they are willing to offer this DNA news. It just doesn’t sit right with me. Wonder what SFPD’s stance on this would be.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:24 pm
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so, someone might have dna from some piece of evidence that has been handled by countless people over the past fifty years? i’ll organize the parade.

True, but if they had success testing specifically the envelope flaps and or the back of the stamps, you wouldn’t expect that evidence had been compromised.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:24 pm
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Over here…

https://www.reddit.com/r/serialkillers/ … ac_killer/

Tom says no one has been arrested or identified.

Nice find. So to me, that would imply they don’t know yet if they have suspect DNA.

It would also imply they don’t necessarily have a profile – which may or may not be a given.

You can’t be serious? They do have the Zodiac’s DNA , but are in the process of putting it into GED match to get the name of the Zodiac. They can’t make an arrest until that takes place. So he has not been identified as of yet, that does not mean there wasn’t any DNA found. Have you not watched the news on how the GSK was caught? If not I suggest that you watch it to see how it is done.

Sandy, there’s a step before they run it through Gedmatch — they need to develop or sequence a DNA profile.

With 50 year old DNA that hasn’t been preserved, accomplishing that is a crap shoot.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:29 pm
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This is from the Dr Oz show about the Zodiac Killer a couple weeks back. The woman says "There’s two stamps on different envelopes we have DNA samples from and it’s now being privately investigated in a lab"

That’s big news and I don’t know why it didn’t make a bigger splash at the time. Either way, it seems the news was already out there.

I wonder if what Tom is talking about now is something different. We know about the rumor.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1673354239638385

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:34 pm
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Must have missed that

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:43 pm
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This is from the Dr Oz show about the Zodiac Killer a couple weeks back. The woman says "There’s two stamps on different envelopes we have DNA samples from and it’s now being privately investigated in a lab"

That’s big news and I don’t know why it didn’t make a bigger splash at the time. Either way, it seems the news was already out there.

I wonder if what Tom is talking about now is something different. We know about the rumor.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1673354239638385

I watched that Dr Oz show and posted about what she said, which sounded hopeful to me. A lot of what I post gets over looked , probably because I do post a lot LOL. But bottom line is I believe her announcement is in conjunction with last nights announcement. I think she didn’t have any results yet on that lab test, is why she didn’t say they found the Zodiac’s DNA. Those results just came in last night is my understanding.

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 10:53 pm
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This is from the Dr Oz show about the Zodiac Killer a couple weeks back. The woman says "There’s two stamps on different envelopes we have DNA samples from and it’s now being privately investigated in a lab"

That’s big news and I don’t know why it didn’t make a bigger splash at the time. Either way, it seems the news was already out there.

I wonder if what Tom is talking about now is something different. We know about the rumor.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1673354239638385

I watched that Dr Oz show and posted about what she said, which sounded hopeful to me. A lot of what I post gets over looked , probably because I do post a lot LOL. But bottom line is I believe her announcement is in conjunction with last nights announcement. I think she didn’t have any results yet on that lab test, is why she didn’t say they found the Zodiac’s DNA. Those results just came in last night is my understanding.

OK, thanks Sandy. If you posted it in the Dr Oz thread that’s probably why I didn’t see it. Still, I would think it would have made a bigger splash.

Anyway, are you absolutely certain this one now is from Vallejo? Tom told you that?

 
Posted : March 26, 2019 11:05 pm
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OK, thanks Sandy. If you posted it in the Dr Oz thread that’s probably why I didn’t see it. Still, I would think it would have made a bigger splash.

Dave Oranchak posted Doctor Oz Zodiac preview segments on Youtube on March 13th.

David Oranchak
Published on Mar 13, 2019
3 preview clips and a promo clip from The Dr. Oz Show episode (season 10, episode 117): 407 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPebXWTpZUE

 
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