So the question is what are the chances that someone looks like the composite and can be placed in the RCC library?

How many people look like the composite and how many people can be placed in the library? Who knows, but the answer to both are more than one, so is there really a basis for assuming that both of them together can only be one? I don’t know.

The lynch pin is really the idea that Z wrote the desktop poem. If you are willing to entertain that he did not, then it diminishes everything else that makes Ross a suspect.

I accept that Z most likely did write it. I’m just not convinced that means Ross wrote it. yeah, I don’t think Gyke wrote it either,or Bruce Davis or Ted Cruz. But that isn’t really saying anything.

I dont know of any reason x, ala, gaik, tk would have for sneaking into rcc and risk writing that poem…i once wrote may be it is not a poem from a student but from the faculty staff up to and including a professor…to me and i dont know squat about literature or poems but may be an intern of the english arts wrote it…may be we should shift away from rcc student body and start to look at employees of rcc…bottom line for me is it seems logical somebody at that college wrote the poem and not somebody walking in off the street..wether that is z or not is the big unknown..

i still think a women was present or close by during her murder…what was going on in cheri’s personal life just prior to that night thst not even her family have knowledge of.

Almost forgot, don’t forget Ross’s morbid poem that freaked out the library staff, and low and behold, what’s written on the desktop that connects z to RCC? A morbid poem!

I’m willing to research any z sketch look alikes in that library but so far we only have one, and he doesn’t have a passing similarity to the sketch but looks as if he posed for the sketch he is identical right down to the hairline. It’s hard to ignore

What we know from general (and very relevant) experience is that composite sketches often do not resemble the perpetrator to any great degree. So, one assumption that has to be factored in if we’re talking Occam, is that Z actually looked very much like the composite. If he did, then this greatly strengthens the case for any proposed suspect who looks like the thing. But it’s still an assumption.

I lean towards him looking like the thing – to what precise degree is impossible to tell, but I think his own attempt at discrediting the sketch is, at least, very interesting.

But all that notwithstanding, we do know that others look like the sketch. Ross isn’t the only person who has been brought up as a dead ringer for it.

And, again, it is dangerous to limit the Z pool to known persons. The evidence itself (which is the most important factor to consider) does not limit the pool in this way.

My "POI"’s girlfriend/fiancee was a Librarian Assistant at the RCC Library before she married in September, 1966. It’s entirely possible–even probable–that my "POI" occasionally visited her while she was working at the Library, perhaps even stayed after closing time to give her a ride home or whatever. While he was in the Naval Reserve and, at that time, was on active duty, he got 48s and 72s like regular navy. Further, he was stationed at Coronado, not all that far from Riverside.

My "POI"’s girlfriend/fiancee was a Librarian Assistant at the RCC Library before she married in September, 1966. It’s entirely possible–even probable–that my "POI" occasionally visited her while she was working at the Library, perhaps even stayed after closing time to give her a ride home or whatever. While he was in the Naval Reserve and, at that time, was on active duty, he got 48s and 72s like regular navy. Further, he was stationed at Coronado, not all that far from Riverside.

Maybe your POI’s wife(if they wound up marrying)would know a lot about Ross?

My "POI"’s girlfriend/fiancee was a Librarian Assistant at the RCC Library before she married in September, 1966. It’s entirely possible–even probable–that my "POI" occasionally visited her while she was working at the Library, perhaps even stayed after closing time to give her a ride home or whatever. While he was in the Naval Reserve and, at that time, was on active duty, he got 48s and 72s like regular navy. Further, he was stationed at Coronado, not all that far from Riverside.

I would not consider Coronado "not all that far" from Riverside. I consider 110 miles pretty far in regards to a murder case.

My "POI"’s girlfriend/fiancee was a Librarian Assistant at the RCC Library before she married in September, 1966. It’s entirely possible–even probable–that my "POI" occasionally visited her while she was working at the Library, perhaps even stayed after closing time to give her a ride home or whatever. While he was in the Naval Reserve and, at that time, was on active duty, he got 48s and 72s like regular navy. Further, he was stationed at Coronado, not all that far from Riverside.

I would not consider Coronado "not all that far" from Riverside. I consider 110 miles pretty far in regards to a murder case.

That’s true

Granted, 110 miles is a fur piece if you’re going shopping. But, it’s nothing for a young swab who’s got a 48 or 72 coming. You can hitch, and get to Riverside from Dago almost as fast as if you drove your own car. I know; I was stationed in Dago, and lived in Colton, which is near Riverside.

Personally the latest from riverside police has put a serious dent in ross as z…

I’m not sure what you are referring to?

If we are taking the assumption of Ross as the killer of CJB off the table for this consideration, that really hurts Occam’s Razor. That’s the only reason he is a Zodiac suspect. If him knowing her and being at the murder scene falls into the realm of coincidence, then anything else connecting him to Zodiac falls way below.

Personally the latest from riverside police has put a serious dent in ross as z…

I’m not sure what you are referring to?

If we are taking the assumption of Ross as the killer of CJB off the table for this consideration, that really hurts Occam’s Razor. That’s the only reason he is a Zodiac suspect. If him knowing her and being at the murder scene falls into the realm of coincidence, then anything else connecting him to Zodiac falls way below.

Actually it doesn’t hurt Ross as being Z, it has been repeated over and over, and since before we ever knew who Ross was, that Z, whoever he was, could have written the Bates case letters and desktop poem, and had nothing to do with killing Cheri. Ross was still suspected by people, whether he killed Cheri or not, was in the RCC library and was identical to the sketch

Someone remind me: What indications do we have that Ross knew Bates, or at the least knew of her? Something about a wedding, I think, but I don’t recall the details.

Anyway, a question: Do people think Ross’ (possible/probable) knowledge of Bates is of significant importance if he did not kill her but only produced the written material in the case?

Someone remind me: What indications do we have that Ross knew Bates, or at the least knew of her? Something about a wedding, I think, but I don’t recall the details.

Anyway, a question: Do people think Ross’ (possible/probable) knowledge of Bates is of significant importance if he did not kill her but only produced the written material in the case?

Ross’s Brother Tim, married Cheri’s Good Friend Bonnie in 1966. Between that connection, and the fact Cheri used the RCC Library where Ross worked, I think it’s safe to say they knew each other. If Ross was disturbed, or had some unhealthy interest in Cheri, maybe hearing about her murder could have set off some thoughts or awoken some fantasy about killing, I don’t know, that’s just me speculating.

I believe Z was the writer of the Bates had to Die letters. Because those were sent from Riverside I believe Z had a connection with Riverside in one way or another.
Is this proof he also killed Cheri Jo Bates? Nope…
The RCC connection and the connection of Ross to Cheri’s best friend is interesting for Ross as suspect for the murder of Cheri Jo Bates. Is this proof he killed her and is also Zodiac? I dunno.
I also have doubt about the desktop poem being from Z.

The best thing to link anyone is the forensics evidence in the Z case and CJB case.

I don’t know if Occam’s Razor applies here, but the idea that two homicidal lunatics could have attended RCC at the same time in the 60s seems a bit of a stretch. If Z wrote the desktop poem, then it was Z who killed Cheri–simple as that.