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*Ross’s job involved marking up books with WHITE INK. We have a watch found with white paint at the CJB scene, later Z uses white ink on the Halloween card.

I think it would be interesting to find an old book from the library with the white paint(ink) on it and spectro analyze it and the haLowe en card

 
Posted : July 12, 2015 2:55 am
Seagull
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The letter also mentions:

*Ross wrote a poem for a school publication. Maybe our Riverside member can dig that up from the RCC archives.

*The youngest brother’s (Jon’s) step father was the pastor at CJB’s church. Even more of a connection their.

*Ross was seen on campus the night CJB was killed.

*Ross’s job involved marking up books with WHITE INK. We have a watch found with white paint at the CJB scene, later Z uses white ink on the Halloween card.

We really need to be more careful about how things are presented. This is how rumors get started and the misinformation spirals out of control.

I have highlighted in red the statement I have a problem with. First of all, the mother of Ross, Jon and Tim had died, we established that in the beginning of the long Ross Sullivan thread. As such she would not have been remarried for the boys to have a step-father. In fact Ross’s parents were married until the day the mother died. There was no step-father.

What the librarian said was that Ross’s younger brother’s foster father was a pastor. There is a huge difference between a step-father and foster father.

Secondly, Cheri was Catholic, the Catholic church has priests not pastors. I have never known a Catholic priest to individually take in foster children. The Catholic church as a whole does take in children in a school type setting however.

Reverend Harold Sullivan, the boys’ father was with the Episcopalian church. Sometimes the reverends in that religion are called pastors. It is far more likely that one or both of Ross’s younger brothers were taken in by one of Harold Sullivan’s fellow Episcopalian reverend’s. We do not know if it was Jon, specifically, that was in foster care as Ross had two younger brothers.

This is the paragraph from the librarian’s letter that addresses this foster father situation.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : July 12, 2015 3:56 am
Paul_Averly
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The interesting thing is how the librarian was so creeped out by Ross, she kept tabs on him even after he left Riverside. She seems dead on with much of the info, even as we dig, we find the same info.

She kept tabs on him until he was in Santa Cruz then thrown in a nut house. That must have been around his arrest in 1968. Then, shortly after, the Zodiac crimes start up.

Only issue is figuring out where Ross was in that time frame. No one seems to know, and that’s probably how he got away with it all.

 
Posted : July 12, 2015 4:49 am
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Hi,
A couple of thoughts. Do they have syllabi/course catalogs?
Who if anybody, would have been teaching James Joyce there?
I say that because Ulysses and especially Finnegan’s Wake are not casual reading. I suspect most are introduced to those books in college classes.
I would be interested to know if any Joyce books were being taught there during that time.

 
Posted : July 14, 2015 2:06 am
murray
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Hi,
A couple of thoughts. Do they have syllabi/course catalogs?
Who if anybody, would have been teaching James Joyce there?
I say that because Ulysses and especially Finnegan’s Wake are not casual reading. I suspect most are introduced to those books in college classes.
I would be interested to know if any Joyce books were being taught there during that time.

I am curious, NNN, what the connection to James Joyce might be? I think it has been difficult to dig up curriculum details so many years later, but there must be a way to confirm this. Are you noticing a connection to literature that was referenced, or is it related to a style of writing demonstrated in a letter? The poem?

 
Posted : July 14, 2015 9:59 am
morf13
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Look in the Fred Manalli section or use the search feature for lots of James Joyce stuff we’ve posted about

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

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Posted : July 14, 2015 2:50 pm
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Be interesting to know if they did an IQ test on ross at the mental institution…..but that record in all probability will never be made public..

 
Posted : July 15, 2015 4:05 pm
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Be interesting to know if they did an IQ test on ross at the mental institution…..but that record in all probability will never be made public..

Interesting question. Ross seems like he had a varied background with knowledge of a lot of stuff. It may not make him smart, but definitely shows how much stuff he knew about-

*Religion (thru his Father)

*YMCA activity

*Camping

*Acting

*Member of the orator’s club

*High school & college student

*Was an artist

*Into poetry

*Knew how to skin animals

*Knew how to ride a motorcycle

*Read the New Yorker magazine

*Worked in the RCC Library

* Wrote a paper about how to use various writing styles
who knows what else he was into, or what skills he had.

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Posted : July 15, 2015 4:11 pm
Jarlve
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morf13,

In another thread you posted that there’s a witness who mentioned "his term paper was about handwriting and the different styles". I guess that should go on your list. It’s compelling to say the least.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : July 16, 2015 12:30 am
morf13
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morf13,

In another thread you posted that there’s a witness who mentioned "his term paper was about handwriting and the different styles". I guess that should go on your list. It’s compelling to say the least.

Thanks I just added that. Yes it is very interesting

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Posted : July 16, 2015 1:53 am
murray
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Look in the Fred Manalli section or use the search feature for lots of James Joyce stuff we’ve posted about

Thanks, helpful.

 
Posted : July 16, 2015 6:48 am
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sorry alive been super busy. Went to the library not too long ago and it was closed for a week. Ugh. So I still need to get over there and do more research. It may take me a while. Busy time of the year for me :(

 
Posted : July 21, 2015 2:38 am
smokie treats
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Pink,

It is so nice to hear that you are alive! I have been wondering about you these last few days and you must have picked up on that. I just want you to know that when you do get the chance to go back to the library, I will appreciate your efforts. Heck, I want to see the poem. :)

Smokie

 
Posted : July 21, 2015 3:39 am
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Thanks Smokie :) the poem is defo on my list of stuff to look for (at the top of the list really).

Morf, was it ever determined what employee checked out Cheri’s books for her that night? An employee would need to see her library card and apply the 3 books to that card before she left with the books that night.

Another thread here references a newspaper article quoting a male librarian (no name) as saying he thought he saw CJB, but wasn’t sure what time he saw her. As Seagull wondered, was that male librarian Ross?

Did investigators look into what employee/s closed up
The library that night?

 
Posted : July 21, 2015 3:57 am
doranchak
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Can somebody give me a date for when Jo Ann Bailey sent her letter? I want to add it to http://zodiackillerciphers.com/wiki/ind … s_Sullivan

Thanks

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
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