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OK, ill bite……..what is the case?

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 6:33 am
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I don’t know why people who don’t think Ross is a good suspect make it so personal, like it’s irrational for people to like him as a suspect. He’s a good suspect. Far Better than the two other most talked about recently (Earl Van Best, whatshisface that Tom Voight is pushing who’s name escapes me right now).

Most of us would agree, if their is a person of interest connected to that crime scene, we would look into them. Present us with some clean cut, straight edge person connected to RCC that moved to the Bay Area, and he’s worth a look. But I agree with Jeff P, Ross is a better suspect than any I know of at this time. When we first started digging, a bay area connection wasn’t even known, now it’s established. So, the more info we find, the better he looks. Anyone could have killed CJB, but maybe we should start with the on again off again mental patients.

Anything is possible. It’s possible Jo Anne Bailey killed Cherri and tried to point the blame at Ross. Problem is, it just doesn’t fit in with logic and common sense.

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 6:47 am
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I really hope LE did not drop Ross as a suspect just because "he had an alibi." That would be very irresponsible on their part. But that does tell us that they did at least talk to him. What made them suspicious of Ross in the first place, though?

So those of you who have doubts about Joann Bailey, think about that. The police DID interview Ross about the murder.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 6:50 am
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I do not have any problem with entertaining a female involved in the cjb crime..it kinda fits in some sense..the leap is cjb killer or killers to the entirety of the z crimes…i havent even totally resolved LB being z….ross has one trump card and that is he can be placed at RCC at the time cheri was alive…be nice if family members were a little more forthcoming with info..oh well..keep digging into associates of ross and cheri..somebody will know..they always do…..

It is a curiosity as to why 11 years pass and the librarians suddenly draft up a letter with concerns for ross..wonder if 1 of there kids was getting some heat from the police or was the probe of investigation to expand and this letter being an attempt at distraction..just curiosity..seems a lil weird to wait 11 years..seems they would have been interviewed within a very short time frame after the homicide….

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 6:57 am
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I do not have any problem with entertaining a female involved in the cjb crime..it kinda fits in some sense..the leap is cjb killer or killers to the entirety of the z crimes…i havent even totally resolved LB being z….ross has one trump card and that is he can be placed at RCC at the time cheri was alive…be nice if family members were a little more forthcoming with info..oh well..keep digging into associates of ross and cheri..somebody will know..they always do…..

It is a curiosity as to why 11 years pass and the librarians suddenly draft up a letter with concerns for ross..wonder if 1 of there kids was getting some heat from the police or was the probe of investigation to expand and this letter being an attempt at distraction..just curiosity..seems a lil weird to wait 11 years..seems they would have been interviewed within a very short time frame after the homicide….

Ross has a second trump card too where Cheri was his then sister-in-laws best friend.

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 12:54 pm
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Someone making up stuff about someone that they don’t like who is a Zodiac suspect…yeah, Cheney. So that totally happens…

But as far as I know everything that Bailey has said has been shown to be true, and she never contradicted herself, so I think we should assume her letter was in good faith.

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 1:05 pm
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Someone making up stuff about someone that they don’t like who is a Zodiac suspect…yeah, Cheney. So that totally happens…

But as far as I know everything that Bailey has said has been shown to be true, and she never contradicted herself, so I think we should assume her letter was in good faith.

Not to mention, it’s alleged that ALA molested his Cheney’s Daughter, which would give him a reason to do something along those lines of framing ALA

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Posted : August 24, 2015 2:25 pm
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In some respects, Ross is just like a lot of POIs who were named because they were the strange co-worker/relative. The difference is that he worked at the crime scene and seems to have had reason to be acquainted with the victim.

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 2:35 pm
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In some respects, Ross is just like a lot of POIs who were named because they were the strange co-worker/relative. The difference is that he worked at the crime scene and seems to have had reason to be acquainted with the victim.

True. I also think,she was suspecting him of the murder of Cheri. We don’t know that she accused him of being Z,or that she knew a whole lot about Z,since it was much bigger news in the SF bay area. Her response was likely due to Peterson contacting her looking for Suspects in Cheri’s case

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Posted : August 24, 2015 5:23 pm
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By no means do I wish to sound argumentative, but it seems to me that Sullivan’s candidacy (at least, as Bates’ killer) is largely based on his scaring a librarian. Hundreds–probably, thousands–of people were in and out of the RCC Library. We know Cheri was a frequent visitor there–her photo on the front page of the school paper certainly suggests this. Further, that photo would have alerted anyone attending RCC who had a grudge against Cheri that the Library might prove a good staging area for an attack on her.

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 7:54 pm
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By no means do I wish to sound argumentative, but it seems to me that Sullivan’s candidacy (at least, as Bates’ killer) is largely based on his scaring a librarian. Hundreds–probably, thousands–of people were in and out of the RCC Library. We know Cheri was a frequent visitor there–her photo on the front page of the school paper certainly suggests this. Further, that photo would have alerted anyone attending RCC who had a grudge against Cheri that the Library might prove a good staging area for an attack on her.

Except I don’t think that photo was Cheri after seeing the clear version.

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As to Joanne being involved, the thought never crossed my mind.

Surely if she and others felt this way, and her being a librarian there, she was interviewed at the time or at the very least expressed her concerns in regards to Cheri’s murder at the time Cheri was killed. I cannot see her avoiding LE if she felt this strongly about Ross. I agree with Morf that she probably brought this up years later at the request of someone else–probably Peterson like mentioned.

IF her letter was written in 1977 it’s curious since Ross died in 1977, but that could just be a coincidence. She didn’t seem to know he was dead, but one has to wonder why did this come to light then?

This Harry Beck guy has probably passed on or is very old, but what about Reference Librarian "Winifred Turner"–has anyone (morf) tried contacting her? http://www.zodiackiller.com/BatesHeadline2.html


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 8:04 pm
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I really hope LE did not drop Ross as a suspect just because "he had an alibi." That would be very irresponsible on their part.

That surely depends entirely on what the alibi was. And we don’t know that.

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 11:06 pm
Norse
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OK, ill bite……..what is the case?

There aren’t any details in the letter which were known only by the killer and the cops. The only possible detail is the phone call, but RPD have never confirmed that they received any such call. I don’t think they did, personally: They seem to doubt the letter themselves, which they wouldn’t have if a call had actually been made.

 
Posted : August 24, 2015 11:12 pm
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One detail in the confession letter was "A small knife at her throat".
I don’t think it was known she was murdered with a small knife.

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 1:06 am
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Tahoe: Maybe the "clear vision" of the photo doesn’t look like Cheri to you, but the one on the cover of the college paper sure looks like her to me. And, it does to several others I’ve discussed it with, including one guy who knew her back when. I don’t remember his name, but he said he’d bought her VW, and some papers of hers were still in the glove compartment. Wish I’d asked him what they were!

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 1:09 am
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