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Seagull
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It was a little of both Soze, regarding the address.

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www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : November 19, 2015 8:31 pm
Norse
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And then there’s the rumor that a cop admitted to faking the Lass card…

Plenty of that going around.

Personally I don’t put too much stock in either rumors or handwriting, particularly not when the samples are tiny.

The handwriting on the Pines card is the address (and "Zodiac" + the symbol), the rest is cut n’ paste, I think.

Halloween is all capital letters except for the address (correct me if I’m wrong). Not much actual writing to either verify or dismiss, you’d think. But then again they apparently managed to verify the Confession letter (where the only handwriting is the address in capital letters), so there it is.

The one thing I do find very interesting about the HC is the "by knife" phrase. While this is by no means conclusive, it is at least a tangible, objective piece of evidence linking the writer to Z (the phrase being unpublished at the time, AFAIK).

 
Posted : November 19, 2015 9:32 pm
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Seems as good a place as any to post this: Just a musing on my part regarding the three different types of Z communications people consider either confirmed or possible:

The canonical, letter writing Z:

Communicates with newspapers (with the exception of Belli, a well known public figure). Does not focus on individuals, and certainly does not threaten them. Is mainly interested in his own crimes and exploits. Main motivation for writing: Gaining notoriety.

The cut/paste Z:

Communicates with private persons. Focuses very much on individuals and does threaten them. Main motivation for writing seems to be an attempt to scare the individuals in question. If he wanted to threaten them in order to boost his bogeyman status, he could have done so much more efficiently by following his standard procedure.

NOTE: The most obvious difference between these two categories is – of course – the basic nature of the communications. The first are regular, handwritten letters (some pretty lengthy ones), undeniable evidence that the author was not afraid to put his handwriting on display. The last are the very opposite apart from small snippets of mainly capital letters. Evidence – normally – that the author does not want his handwriting on display. If Z is the author, the latter can’t be the case – so another explanation must be sought.

The post-Exorcist Z:

Communicates with newspapers but does not identify himself. Is not interested in his own crimes and exploits at all. Motivation unknown.

The discrepancies are considerable. Huge, even. They have to be explained somehow if we are to understand what drove Z and what sort of person (and what sort of killer) he was. A very simple – and, to me, a plausible – explanation is that he didn’t produce all these missives, or more precisely that he didn’t produce missives in all these categories.

 
Posted : May 1, 2016 2:22 pm
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I only can agree with the Canonical missives. I think that the "others" are, to put it most simply, B.S.

-glurk

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I don’t believe in monsters.

 
Posted : May 1, 2016 2:39 pm
Norse
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I only can agree with the Canonical missives. I think that the "others" are, to put it most simply, B.S.

-glurk

Agreed. At least, that’s what I’m working from – if one can put it like that. When considering what Z has actually said and done, I tend to disregard anything that is remotely questionable.

Another thing I keep coming back to is that we don’t know why certain missives were flagged and/or considered interesting at various points. If we knew precisely why, we might agree or disagree with the reasoning behind it – but we don’t know. Most of us agree that the professionals in the Z case are a motley crew, and that they clearly haven’t been spot on in every detail over the years.

The core of written letters hardly anyone has ever disputed are different: It’s obvious why they were considered genuine. There is seemingly no reason to doubt that he produced them. They either contain actual proof that he did so, or they fit the bill in various ways to a degree which makes it unreasonable to question their authenticity.

 
Posted : May 1, 2016 3:51 pm
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I was told by Toschi back in the early 70’s ,that the Zodiac had a strange way of sealing his envelopes was another way of knowing if they were authentic or not.

I didn’t think to ask him how they were sealed, but then he probably wouldn’t have told me if I had asked.

 
Posted : May 1, 2016 7:24 pm
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"You taught me to mean it", Z wrote.

Sounds as if psychiatrist Edward C Adams had Z as a client, doesn’t it?

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : January 6, 2018 12:52 am
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Or someone who like to pretend he is Zodiac.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : January 6, 2018 12:55 am
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For example the killer of Tsukamoto..his homicide happened only 0.8 miles to the west of Adams’ office @ Shattuck Hotel.

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : January 6, 2018 1:03 am
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In Zodiac Unmasked Graysmith wrote something vague and confusing about the supposed sender of this card. About the sender living next to ALA’s brother or somesuch. Has any better information ever come out about that?

 
Posted : January 6, 2018 2:41 am
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"You taught me to mean it", Z wrote.

Sounds as if psychiatrist Edward C Adams had Z as a client, doesn’t it?

QT

Yes it sure does look that way. I would love to see his list of clients! I do believe that Zodiac has some mental issues, that only a professorial like Edward C Adams could be of help to him.
It seems that Zodiac told the doctor that he would say he was going to do something but wouldn’t do it. Sort of like when Zodiac said he would shoot the kiddies as they came bouncing off the bus. Or the bomb plan.
He told the Richmond school teacher that he would kill the lady in the blue house, yet he didn’t.

 
Posted : January 6, 2018 9:46 am
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