Does anyone know the date for these writings to RG.

Thanks

Soze

I believe it started in October of 2010—see first post.

Lord. My apologies. Cant see how i missed it. Thanks

Soze

FWIW, I compared the content/writing of this more contemporary Halloween card to the Jenner/Fish Head Beach "journal" writings found at the yet-to-be-solved Cutshall-Allen murders, and noted some similarities in writing style (both literary and literal). A number of days prior to the murder of this Christian couple, I saw and took note of the strange decal on the back windshield of the vehicle associated by police (but details of which were not released until a year later) to the murder of Cutshall and Allen, and took note of it, for a number of reasons. I did notify police at the time they released their information (and I could relate much more, I believe, if my memory was better–anyone know a good forensic hypnotist?).

We know who this (female) person is and I am 100% confident they were not involved with the Jenner murders. This is why stuff like this is so frustrating. It gets into the mix and will forever be brought back into the scenario of possibilities…

Don’t want to open old wounds…..but did we get a consensus on this letter being legit, possible, or outright Fake. Below is just my 2c to ‘THINK’ about….

Don’t want to open old wounds…..but did we get a consensus on this letter being legit, possible, or outright Fake. Below is just my 2c to ‘THINK’ about….

None of us are qualified to know if it was from Zodiac or not. Not even the so called "experts" agreed on which were real back in 1969 – 1978.

As for myself, I doubt that a hoaxer would write things about where RG was and who he was with on certain days. Unless they were stalking RG back then and I doubt a hoaxer was following RG. Had Graysmith taken a few minutes to read that letter, he would know if the writer was correct or not about where RG was on the days mentioned.

People seem to think that it had to be from a woman, because it has feminine traits? So did some of the confirmed Zodiac letters! A hoaxer would not give the details that Zodiac would give, like what was in that letter. They would have been vague and wrote things like Zodiac had done in the past, not something that could be easily disputed.
I believe that something or someone caused Zodiac to start communicating again and that is why all of a sudden, there were new letters and even phone calls from someone claiming to be Zodiac. I know that law enforcement took the Eureka card seriously and did an investigation into who we called Sam. Some of you didn’t think that one was real either. I am looking forward to a announcement any day now on the DNA Vallejo more than likely has, proving who Zodiac really was/is!

It’s hard to be totally certain about these things.

But this is one of the longer letters.

I don’t like appeals to subjectivity. Everything is subjective, but some things are more subjective than others.

What’s interesting is just how many people have read this and made the comment about the writer being female. I had the same very strong sense before I read any of the comments. The writer is earnest, sincere, emotional and distinctly feminine. I don’t ever say this, but I would stake my life on it. Subjectivity aside if this wasn’t written by a women I will actually eat a hat, obviously a chemically inert one and only after approval from my doctor.

I can’t sight any strong evidence, but I bet if you took a survey a lot of people would feel the same way. There’s just something so strikingly feminine about it. Not just in the earnest and emotive language, or the awkward early attempts at sarcasm (the real Z was on point, I usually judge a letters authenticity by how much I have to resist the urge to grin (sick I know, but I can’t help it)), but it’s also in the loopy/curvy flowing handwriting and the cute little stars with the swoosh under them. Its not so much the case these days, but due to social expectations in the past a lot of young girls would practice writing in a feminine, or "attractive" manner. Thank goodness society is slowly moving on from that. Those cute little stars just are so… it’s like they jump straight out of a 16 year old’s diary. Not at all the aggressive jagged, harsh lines of the Zodiacs known doodles.

I’m actually pretty open minded about a lot of the other unconfirmed letters, in fact this is the only one that I am so unyielding certain is a hoax.

Not that my opinion should sway anyone, I think this is a look and judge for yourself situation.

As for Sandy’s reasoning. I get it, would a hoaxer go to the lengths of stalking GS? Surely only the real Zodiac would go to such lengths. Well then again clearly these kind of copycat hoaxes are a real phenomenon and hoaxers are often as strange and extreme as the people they’re mimicking. So I could see a copycat hoaxer being committed enough to stalk.

We all know that Zodiac was sort of a copy cat when it came to some of the things he liked to use as clues. The three stars he drew in his letter with a line under them , could be a copy from a 1914 Charlie Chaplin silent movie advertisement called " Caught In A Cabaret" it showed also a two reeler: "The Property Man". That movie was about a Jack of all trades around a cheap music hall ——-and causes no end of trouble for so many people — some who had it coming —-.

I asked Zamantha to show the add that I received from a friend who isn’t a poster, when she has time. The add looks hand written and not a professional movie poster. The only date on it is Saturday and Sunday Feb 23rd and 24th. The person who gave it to me thought it was a add from the early 60’s.

The writing is very close to Zodiac’s writing, Rick Marshall perhaps?

I found that there was a Sat 23rd in 1980. Need help finding other years for that date.

I’ll grant that it’s strange a hoaxer wouldn’t try harder to disguise their gender if they were a woman. I mean the stars with the swoosh are so strikingly feminine in my opinion as to be almost a dead giveaway. Could be Z was taking his camp humor to new heights… but I don’t think it’s dry enough.

Or to put it another way you could argue that it’s almost so bad of a hoax attempt that it must actually be genuine.

I’ll take a look at the Chaplin reference.

I found that there was a Sat 23rd in 1980. Need help finding other years for that date.

1963

https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?y … &country=1

1974

https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?y … &country=1

We all know that Zodiac was sort of a copy cat when it came to some of the things he liked to use as clues. The three stars he drew in his letter with a line under them , could be a copy from a 1914 Charlie Chaplin silent movie advertisement called " Caught In A Cabaret" it showed also a two reeler: "The Property Man". That movie was about a Jack of all trades around a cheap music hall ——-and causes no end of trouble for so many people — some who had it coming —-.

I asked Zamantha to show the add that I received from a friend who isn’t a poster, when she has time. The add looks hand written and not a professional movie poster. The only date on it is Saturday and Sunday Feb 23rd and 24th. The person who gave it to me thought it was a add from the early 60’s.

The writing is very close to Zodiac’s writing, Rick Marshall perhaps?

Here you go Sandy!

Curious. So this poster really is from 1914?

Is this image obscure, or does it appear frequently in books and such about Chaplin?

*Edit*

I just realised you mean the film was made in 1914 (duh) and this poster is from sometime later. Is that right?

Curious. So this poster really is from 1914?

Is this image obscure, or does it appear frequently in books and such about Chaplin?

*Edit*

I just realised you mean the film was made in 1914 (duh) and this poster is from sometime later. Is that right?

Yes, they have theaters in San Francisco that show old time movies. I was trying to figure out what year the add came out for that showing.I looked through the 60’s but missed 1963 somehow. I found a calendar date for 1980, by then I was getting tired of looking . I was hoping for more dates closer to when the letter was sent to the SF Chronicle. The person who found the add for the movie, thought it was from the 1960’s. The three stars with the curvy line under them, looks like what was drawn in the letter. ( To copy is something we know that Zodiac does) I think it is hard for most people to fathom Zodiac having some feminine ways. That some of his letters were thought to be somewhat feminine.
Thanks again for your help Seagull.