Yup, it has been pointed out before. I think there’s a thread on here where someone tried to match up Zodiac to some particular white supremacist group that used that as their sign, but I can’t remember what they were called. Sorry.

Edit: Found it. Here it is. The Minutemen.

http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=414&p=1352

There is also a thread about a 1976 z personal ad mentioning the imperial wizard

Yes it defo resembles the Minutemen logo.

I began a thread the other day just to find a match for a missing girl and it lead me to a Minuteman mentioning seeing the girl after she disappeared and that a Minutemen member killed her (and he implicated one of their members claiming he was like the zodiac). Here’s that thread which is active viewtopic.php?f=99&t=2526

And Z might be responsible or had falsely confessed via letters to the Atlanta Child murders 1979-1981. That info is in the link above. Lots of racist rhetoric in those letters.

Zodiac never once used racists slurs though. There didn’t appear to be anything about race in his actions.

Except for those letters Morf found in the FBI file that might have been from Z in which he was demanding the stop of integrated bussing and claimed he killed the kids in Atlanta who all so happened to be Af American. They couldn’t determine whether or not the letters were from Z, but imho they really resemble his handwriting.

Besides he may have just enjoyed the idea of the anarchy that a race war would cause.

I agree that his initial
MO did not indicate he was racist, but he claims in the ATL murder letters that he changed up his MO and was no longer stalking women, but children. This is interesting because it may indicate he does not always announce the racial motivation of his crimes or make it apparent in his language just how racist he truly is. He doesn’t refer to the children as the N word or even black in the letter, but just children.

Then his next letter about bussing is the one to mention he doesn’t want integrated bussing which indicates he is racist.

If we take those letters as Zodiac’s we might as well take them all.

There is no indication Zodiac was into race wars from all of the proven Zodiac communiques.

I guess the FBI was wrong in considering those letters that were specifically intended to strike fear into a specific race were possibly from Z then. To say there is no indication at all that he was racist in light of this possibility noted by the FBI seems very dismissive, but to each his own.

They consider letters they are asked to consider, but there is no conclusion they were Zodiac and if they were determined to be from him I’d say someone was smokin’ the crack pipe.

So yes, in light of there being no conclusive evidence they were actually written by Zodiac, I remain of the opinion there are no clues as to Zodiac being a racist, etc.

Hm so anyone who thinks those could be Z letters is smoking a crack pipe in other words? Classy.

Yup, it has been pointed out before. I think there’s a thread on here where someone tried to match up Zodiac to some particular white supremacist group that used that as their sign, but I can’t remember what they were called. Sorry.

Edit: Found it. Here it is. The Minutemen.

http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=414&p=1352

Thanks. I wasn’t aware there was an ongoing thread relative to this or I would have posted there.

Probably. It’s a popular symbol and has been used on many, many things. It’s highly improbable that Zodiac was an NIFC supporter so context always helps and specifically geographic and historical. It also seems unlikely, not impossible, but still unlikely that Zodiac’s choice of symbol would be anything directly traceable to himself or anyone else. For one, Zodiac was a serial killer and that’s something, with all it’s inherent needs, that has to be protected for it to be maintained. "No Address", "I will not give you my name" etc. Also it’s not something he wants to share either "I hope you do not think that I was the one ….". It’s his brand, his identity, his gig. In that respect I don’t see him adopting it from a pre-existing group or organisation. Possibly from a watch but that’s ok in a way because watches don’t kill people or threaten society so there wasn’t a conflict of interest/purpose there.

Hm so anyone who thinks those could be Z letters is smoking a crack pipe in other words? Classy.

I’m not here to be classy. Just joking around Pink. People think I smoke ’em peace-pipe sometimes.

Good point T1. That symbol is called the Celtic Cross, a popular Irish symbol. Although it is used by racists, it’s not primarily a racist symbol.

Didn’t he refer to the guy at the phone booth as a "negro"? Not a racist term at the time, but not hip lingo either. Zodiac was, as they say, a "jive honky".

why would zodiac avoid racial overtones in his canonical letters but convey those sentiments in letters that aren’t definitively attributed to him? it makes no sense.