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Bates had to die letters confirmed to be a hoax

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morf13
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Tom V on his site Zodiackiller.com posted that Bates had to die letters are a hoax Riverside PD confirms

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 9:38 pm
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Unreal. Z like symbol, multiple letters, and double postage as well.

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 9:44 pm
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Posted by: @marienbad

Unreal. Z like symbol, multiple letters, and double postage as well.

Proof of ‘Zyncronicity’- it’s real. On the other hand, Zodiac could have read about the Bates case and the letters in her case after he read it in a detective magazine, as her story and details was available PRIOR TO Zodiac 

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There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 10:01 pm
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Breaking news in a murder case is announced via comments in an online forum? That is the only attribution I see… a web forum.

This breaking news coincides with certain products being offered for sale, too.

That was too much!

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 10:24 pm
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Zero attribution other than a web forum, which to my mind makes it even less credible than hearsay.

Also, nothing in the media to corroborate the claim at all. None to dispute it either. I think Uri is bending more spoons.

That was too much!

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 10:28 pm
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Posted by: @russ-thompson

Zero attribution other than a web forum, which to my mind makes it even less credible than hearsay.

Also, nothing in the media to corroborate the claim at all. None to dispute it either. I think Uri is bending more spoons.

I assume that this is going to be addressed in a police report. I am sure Tom can chime in here, I do not want to speak for him, but you can’t put this genie back in the bottle. If you declare something like this, it better be official. 

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 10:32 pm
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If anyone has direct evidence that the “Bates had to die” letters were publicized prior to Avery, I’d love to see it. They are not mentioned in the Inside Detective article.

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 10:37 pm
Richard Grinell
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Typed letters, addressed but unstamped were sent to the Riverside Homicide Detail and Riverside Press Enterprise on November 29th 1966. The Bates letters were mailed to Riverside Police and the Press Enterprise also.

Confession letter: I said it was about time. She asked me “about time for what”. I said it was about time for her to die.

Desktop Poem: Just wait till next time

 

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Posted : August 2, 2021 10:58 pm
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Well those three Bates scrawls are probably some of the least likely candidates for a Zodiac communication in all the Zodiac communications that are wobbly. So is it really a shock? Probably not as much as I thought it would be. What’s a bigger shock to me is the bit about not being involved in the Zodiac investigation. Given all the other evidence, that makes very little sense except to want to keep pressing Barnett as the culprit despite the physical hard forensic evidence including mtDNA pointing away from him. Why would Barnett write a letter incriminating himself? The writer says he killed CJB because she brushed him off making it look like she knew him and he was trying advances on her. You only write something like that if she is a total stranger, just like the other strangers the letter talks about. 

www.zodiachalloweencard.com has a 400 paged book for free containing the super solution with an overarching explanation of the cards and more.

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 11:53 pm
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No mention of DNA from the Bates letters. Just the 2016 letter.

The weird thing is that Wikipedia had been reporting, for a while, that the Bates letters were deemed a hoax via DNA, and nobody knew where that info came from.

Also — announcing a “set” of fake Zodiac letters without specifying which seems pretty pointless. Hopefully there’ll be more info later.

 
Posted : August 2, 2021 11:57 pm
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Posted by: @russ-thompson

Breaking news in a murder case is announced via comments in an online forum? That is the only attribution I see… a web forum.

This breaking news coincides with certain products being offered for sale, too.

?

 
Posted : August 3, 2021 12:09 am
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I can’t see this being anything but good news. In my mind it means two things:

1. Zodiac was not responsible for the Bates murder, and we can eliminate that from consideration in this case. All of those seeming connections and coincidences have no bearing now. We can take a fresh look now. 

2. Zodiac was clearly lying about his involvement in the Bates case in the 1971 LA Times letter. This should raise serious questions about his honestly regarding Kathleen Johns and others. 

This is a very big, very good development that hopefully leads to several other breaks. 

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : August 3, 2021 1:08 am
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Posted by: @chaucer

I can’t see this being anything but good news. In my mind it means two things:

1. Zodiac was not responsible for the Bates murder, and we can eliminate that from consideration in this case. All of those seeming connections and coincidences have no bearing now. We can take a fresh look now. 

2. Zodiac was clearly lying about his involvement in the Bates case in the 1971 LA Times letter. This should raise serious questions about his honestly regarding Kathleen Johns and others. 

This is a very big, very good development that hopefully leads to several other breaks. 

It’s not very cut and dry unfortunately. No specifics mentioned. We don’t know if the author of handwritten Bates notes was author of confession letter. etc

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 3, 2021 2:42 am
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Thanks Tom, here’s the source from the Riverside website to confirm:

https://riversideca.gov/rpd/about-contact/operations/investigations-division/cold-case-unit#spotLightCase

 

not sure why the hyperlink won’t take

 
Posted : August 3, 2021 3:18 am
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Thanks! Glad they added it. Now maybe I’ll get an apology…probably not.

 
Posted : August 3, 2021 3:25 am
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